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#38 (305) z 5 noemberi, 2014 weli z gamodis oTxSabaTs z WWW.SAERTOGAZETI.GE z fasi 1 lari
ori gazeTi erT gazeTSi
koba arabuli:
cvlilebebis
2 weli da
daskvna:
irakli
RaribaSvili,
rogorc
maRalkvalificiuri
politikosi,
Sedga!
hiCkokis `Citebi~,
beRurebis gadafrena
da SeRebili jorebi...
anu Ria werili
amerikis elCs riCard
norlands _ ucxoeTis
yvela elCisa da
konsulis gasagonad!
batono norland, nu gvaswavlian
imaze mets, rac saWiroa da imas,
rac ukve didi xania viciT. Cven ara varT
papuasebi, arc kxmerebi da faSistebi.
irakli alasanias batoni
norlandi ki endoba,
magram qarTveli xalxi ara!
`rogor SeiZleba im
adamianebma da maTma Wirisuflebma Seiyvaron
alasania, vinc 26 maiss
rusTavelze cemes, daarbies, daapatimres, mokles, alasaniam ki isini
uxarisxo qarTvelebad
Camowera~
irakli alasania Tavdacvis
ministris Tanamdebobidan
gaaTavisufles!
amis Sesaxeb premier-ministrma irakli
RaribaSvilma politsabWos sxdomis dasrulebis
Semdeg sagangebo brifingze ganacxada.
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makkeins, qorebs,
yvavebs da sxva
mamaZaRlebs,
iseTive SeSlilebsa
da giJebs, rogoric
saakaSvilia,
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areuloba awyobT...
paata giorgaZe:
wylis industriis
ganviTarebiT
saqarTvelo
msoflioSi erTerTi umdidresi
qveyana gaxdeba
2015 wlidan msoflios
sasmeli wylis
deficiti emuqreba...
gazeTi moazrovne
mkiTxvelisTvis
2
saerTo gazeTi
#38 (305), 5.XI, 2014 w.
redaqtoris sveti
vaxtang
xarCilava
15 noembers `nacmoZraobis~ mier daanonsebuli aqcia, darwmunebuli var, Tavisi farisevlobiT da utifrobiT, Zalian emgvaneba 2008
wlis 12 agvistos aqcias,
roca `nacionalebi~ samarcxvinod wagebuli omis Semdeg
gamarjvebas zeimobdnen da
qarTvel xalxs TvalSi nacars ayridnen.
`nacmoZraoba~, romelic
15 noembers afxazeTis mosalodneli aneqsiis gaprotestebas apirebs, TviTon aris
im mizanmimarTuli provokaciis Tanaavtori da Tanainiciatori, romlis Sedegadac
saqarTvelos teritoriis 20
procenti okupirebuli iqna.
15 noembris aqciiT
`nacionalebi~ im saukunis danaSaulis da sisxliani SeTqmulebis gadafarvas
cdiloben,
romelic maT 2008 wels
saqarTvelos mouwyves.
`nacmoZraobas~ arc erTi
nabiji ar gadaudgams afxazeTisa da e. w. samxreT oseTis
konfliqtebis mosagvareblad.
piriqiT, man yvelaferi
gaakeTa imisTvis, rom es konfliqti gaRrmavebuliyo, rom
amiT ruseTTan mudmivi konfrontaciis sababi da motivi
SeenarCunebina, rac `nacmoZraobas~ pirdapir hqonda davalebuli msoflios garkveuli politikuri wreebisgan.
swored amis gamo gaauqma
`nacmoZraobam~ ergneTis bazroba, riTac, faqtobrivad,
CaSala qarTveli da osi
xalxebis Serigebis TiTqmis
bolomde miyvanili procesi,
rac Semdgom 2008 wlis agvistos omiT `dagvirgvinda~.
`nacmoZraoba~ mizanmimarTulad uSlida xels afxaz
da qarTvel xalxebs Soris
urTierTobis daTbobis yovelgvar mcdelobas da swored am mizniT dgamda teraqtebs, incidentebs, Txzavda
jaSuSur-diversiuli Sinaarsis kriminalur `saqmeebs~.
samwuxarod, axalma xelisuflebam ver SeZlo bolomde mieyvana 2008 wlis agvistoSi momxdari didi saxelmwifo Ralatis gamoZieba, ris
Sedegadac `nacmoZraoba~ apirebs misi antisaxelmwifoebrivi qmedebebis Sedegebze pasuxismgebloba `qarTul ocnebas~ ahkidos.
saqarTvelos
mTavroba,
saqarTvelos
parlamenti,
kerZod, misi saparlamento
umravlesoba, koalicia `qarTul ocnebaSi~ Semavali partiebi da maTi liderebi unda
gaTavisufldnen im demagogiuri kliSeebisgan, romelTa
mixedviTac, TiTqos, `nacmoZraoba~ prodasavluri orientaciis politikuri organizaciaa. sinamdvileSi `nacmoZraoba~
provokatoruli,
agenturuli Zalaa, romelic
yvelafers akeTebs imisTvis,
rom saqarTvelo kvlav daajaxoos ruseTs, rac SeiZleba qarTuli saxelmwifos
daSliT da daqucmacebiT damTavrdes.
`nacmoZraoba~
dasavlur farCa-atlasSi SefuTuli rusuli
bombia, romelic kvalis dafarvis mizniT
sakuTari ki ara sxvisi
ezodan
Semogvigdes,
risi damamtkicebeli
uamravi masala arsebobs.
kidev erTxel mivmarTavT xelisuflebas TxovniT, gamoiZieT
da sazogadoebis samsjavroze gamoitaneT es
masalebi.
amxileT SeniRbuli
mteri, saxelad `nacmoZraoba~!
nu ahyvebiT maT provokacias, nu SegeSindebaT maTi
demagogiuri braldebebis da
12 agvisto, 2008 weli
`saerTo gazeTi~
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ciliswamebebis, gamoitaneT
daskvnebi ara maTi farisevluri sityvebis, aramed maT
mier gakeTebuli danaSaulebrivi saqmeebis mixedviT.
kidev erTi ambavi, romelsac gverds ver avuvliT.
rogorc cnobilia, qarTulma sasamarTlom damnaSaveebad cno `nacmoZraobis~
liderebi.
ismis kiTxva: Tu `nacmoZraobis~ liderebi damnaSaveebi arian, rogoraa udanaSaulo politikuri organizacia
`erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba~, romelic usityvod asrulebda damnaSave liderebis danaSaulebriv brZanebebs?
da aq mivadeqiT mTavars: `nacmoZraobas~,
rogorc saqarTvelos
moRalate kriminalur-danaSaulebriv organizacias, unda aekrZalos politikur asparezze moRvaweobis
ufleba.
`nacmoZraobisTvis~ niRbis Camoxsna, `nacmoZraobis~
mxileba da maTi naavkacaris
bolomde gaSifvra _ mocemul situaciaSi swored es
aris qarTveli xalxis da saqarTvelos
xelisuflebis
nomer pirveli amocana.
Tu es amocana ver Sesruldeba, mudmivad iarsebebs
safrTxe, romelmac SeiZleba
qveyana did katastrofamde
miiyvanos.
saqarTvelo rom gadarCes,
`nacmoZraoba~ unda gasamarTldes!
es aucilebeli pirobaa
imisTvis, rom saqarTvelos
mSvidobis,
stabilurobis,
normaluri ganviTarebis perspeqtiva SeunarCundes.
darwmunebuli varT, qarTveli xalxi daamtkicebs,
rom is Tavmoyvare, Rirseuli
eria, romelic Tavis Seuracxmyofelebs sakadris pasuxs gascems da mTeli simkacriT ityvis:
_ `nacionalur moZraobas~ _ ara!
_ `nacionaluri moZraoba~ _ politikur
sanagveze!
rezo amaSukeli: xval iqneba sazogadoebrivi
moZraoba `lazares~ gafarToebuli Sekreba, radgan yvela vxedavT, rac uqnes `nacionalebma~ Cvens qveyanas,
qarTul ideas, erovnul Rirebulebebs, rogor Seuracxyves dedaeklesia, Cveni uwmindesi, yovelive wminda da
Rirebuli, rac gagvaCnda, fexqveS gaTeles.
qarTveli xalxi amas arasodes daiviwyebs. amitomac
ukve didi xania eri iTxovs samarTals, radgan es xalxi,
romlebsac qveynis winaSe hqondaT danaSaulebi Cadenili, araTu daisajnen, aramed Tavic ki ar dauxriaT, bodiSic ki ar mouxdiaT. yovelive amas erTxel da samudamod wertili unda daesvas. bolo unda moeRos `nacionalebis~ uSno yelyelaobas da muqaras televiziebiT da
sxva sainformacio saSualebebiT.
axla didi mzadeba aqvT, raTa moaxdinon axali samoqalaqo omi da gaaCaRon ZmaTa Soris sisxlisRvra. maTi
mizani dRes mxolod es aris.
sazogadoebas da xelisuflebas vafrTxilebT da vaZlevT kidev dros da Sanss, aRkveTon `nacmoZraobis~ muqarebi, Torem rac moxdeba, pasuxismgeblobas vixsniT,
miuxedavad imisa, rom irakli RaribaSvilis gverdiT
vdgavarT da mis mozomil politikas srulad vemxrobiT.
Cveni Sekrebis kari Riaa yvelasTvis, visac Tavmoyvareoba kidev SerCa. visTvisac Zvirfasia Cveni tanjuli
qveyana, qveynis Rirseba, TiToeuli Cvenganis Rirseba da
namusi.
Sekrebaze Zalian principul da mkveTr gadawyvetilebebs miviRebT, deklaracias SevimuSavebT. Cven gveqneba principuli pozicia.
sazogadoebrivi moZraoba `lazares~
mimarTva saqarTvelos mosaxleobas!
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6 saaTze, rusTavelis saxelobis saxelmwifo Teatris did darbazSi atarebs gafarToebul Sekrebas da iwvevs yvelas, visTvisac Zvirfasi da xelSeuxebelia qarTuli erovnuli Rirebulebebi,
deda-eklesia; vinc aRar moiTmens `nacionaluri
moZraobis~ aRviraxsnil parpaSs, im gamudmebul
muqarebsa da yelyelaobas, rac samoqalaqo omis
gardauval winapirobas qmnis.
davdgeT erTad, rom sabolood davusvaT wertili saqarTvelos gamanadgurebel `nacmoZraobas~ da mis satelit ganStoebebs!
rezo amaSukeli
sazogadoebrivi moZraoba
lazare~
`l
gazeTi xelmZRvanelobs Tavisufali presis principiT.
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‹ am niSniT aRniSnulia sareklamo masalebi.
saerTo gazeTi
#38 (305), 5.XI, 2014 w.
,,saerTo gazeTi“ saparlamento fraqcia ,,qarTuli ocnebis“
xelmZRvanels gia volsks
esaubra.
_ oriode dRis winaT, Tavdacvis saministros maRalCinosnebi sakmaod didi aurzauriT
daakaves. ramdenad swori iyo
politikurad am xalxis dakaveba, maSin, roca qveyanaSi wina
xelisuflebis ramdenime aTeuli maRalCinosani Tavisuflad
daseirnobs da xarjavs biujetidan moparul fuls, Tanac
Tavdacvis ministri am adamianebis udanaSaulobaSi darwmunebulia?!...
_ bunebrivia, arasasiamovno
faqtia, rodesac uwyebis xelmZRvaneli sazRvargareT imyofeba
da maRalCinosnebs mis uwyebaSi
akaveben, magram meore mxarec
aqvs amas, arsebobs gamoZieba, sagamoZiebo struqturebi, romlebmac miiCnies, rom es swori
gadawyvetilebaa, ase rom, amas
araviTari politikuri sarCuli
ar unda edos. saerTodac, saxelmwifo swored iseTi unda
iyos, sadac gamoZieba da samarTali ar ukavSirdeba politikur konieqturas. es erTi, meore, politsabWoze Sexvedrisas
yvela SevTanxmdiT (rasakvirvelia, uwyebis xelmZRvanelic iq
iyo), rom arsebobs Temebi, romlebic mkacrad unda gaemijnos
politikas, maT Soris, erT-erTi mniSvnelovani Tema korufciis braldebiT mimdinare gamoZiebaa. Tavad ministric gamoxatavs am sakiTxisadmi Rrma dainteresebas da darwmunebulia,
Tavisi TanamSromlebis udanaSaulobaSi.
kiTxebze xom ar iyo
wasuli, saxelmwifos sakiTxebs warmoadgenda, ase rom,
saxelmwifos Seeqmna
uxerxuloba da es
uxerxuloba iarsebebda, maSinac ki,
rom arc yofiliyo
viziti. rasakvirvelia, Tema cota sensitiuria, ministris
yofna sazRvargareT
ministro xarisxianad iTanamSromlebs gamoZiebasTan.
_ alasania, romelic ganawyenebul poziciaSi dgas xom
ar aRmoCndeba nacebis mdgomareobaSi an maT gverdiT? Tqven
amas gamoricxavT?
_ rasakvirvelia, gamovricxav. argumentebi imisa, rom koalicia SenarCundeba imdenad
Zlieri da safuZvliania, rom am
Temaze msjeloba saerTod ar
mimaCnia mizanSewonilad.
gia volski:
`saakaSvilis interesebi
ratomRac kidev erTxel
emTxveva ruseTis interesebs~
misviT, metic, madlobeli var.
Cven swored aseT SekiTxvebs
unda gavceT pasuxi. diax, aris
aseTi saubrebi sazogadoebaSi,
avrceleben xmebs, rom samarTaldamcavebma karga xania icodnen, rom aseTi ram moxda da raRacas elodnen, Tumca es absoliturad usafuZvloa, imitom,
rom bevri detali am sakiTxTan
dakavSirebiT Tavad ministrmac
ar icoda. rasakvirvelia, raRac
periodi grZeldeba Seswavla
msgavsi sakiTxebis, finansuri
revizia da a.S. am SemTxvevaSic
ase iyo da rodesac sakmarisi
masala dagrovda swored maSin
da am periodSi misi uwyebis maRalCinosnebis dakaveba, magram
aravin unda ecados, rom es daukavSiros pirad sakiTxs. nebismieri mtkiceba imis Taobaze,
rom uqmnida es uxerxulobas
aris imaSi eWvis Setana, rom
SeiZleba raRac pretenzia iyos
iraklis alasaniasTan, arada
aseTi pretenzia ar arsebobs !
vimeoreb, ar arsebobs, ai, es
aris Zaxilis niSniT saTqmeli.
_ riCard norlandma cota
xnis winaT gaakeTa gancxadeba,
rom alasaniasa da misi gundis
_ nacebi vaxseneT da ras
ityviT 15 noembers nacebis mier
daniSnul aqciaze?
_ es mSvidobiani aqcia, rom
ar aris da namdvilad, ar ukavSirdeba raRac aneqsis mcdelobis gaprotestebas da saerTodac, ruseTis agresiis gaprotestebas, calsaxaa. diax, me
amaSi eWvi ar mepareba da visac
eWvi epareba gadaxedos, ras ambobs, nacionaluri moZraobis
lideri mixeil saakaSvili Tavis 2 agvistos gancxadebaSi da
24 oqtombris gancxadebaSi,
Tavdacvis saministrodan wasvlis survili amerikaSi ar aqvT,
mainteresebs, cota zedmetad
xom ar imarTeba Cveni qveyana
gaRmidan?
_ misi gancxadeba ar ganapirobebs gadawyvetilebas. aSS-m
gamoxata Tavisi pozicia gamWirvaled, magram mTavari aqcenti aq is ar aris, razec Tqven
yuradRebas amaxvilebT. mTavari
aqcenti aris is, rac, rogorc
norlandma, aseve Sveicariis
elCma sakmaod xazgasmiT gamoxata - isini endobian alasanias,
iseve, rogorc me piradad da
darwmunebulebi arian, rom is
arafer SuaSia da Tavdacvis sa-
aseve gadaxedos, Tundac im gancxadebebs, rasac nacionaluri
moZraobis calkeuli warmomadgenlebi parlamentis tribunidan akeTeben. da es mTeli procesia, mimarTulebaa, es ar
aris mxolod gancxadebebi, es
aris dagegmili strategia imisa, rom moaxdinon saxelmwifo
struqturebis diskreditacia.
saakaSvili acxadebs, Cven ver
davelodebiT sanam qurdebi da
kriminalebi Caigdeben saxelmwifos xelTo. is pirdapir ambobs, rom xelisufleba arCevnebis Catarebas ar apirebs, anu
Cven. da aseTi gancxadebebis
fonze uceb moifiqres, rom
gia volski: `es mSvidobiani aqcia,
rom ar aris da ar ukavSirdeba aneqsis
mcdelobis gaprotestebas calsaxaa. ase
rom, eWvebi imis Taobaze, rom isini saxelmwifo gadatrialebas gegmaven safuZvelmoklebuli ar aris“.
_ Tumca usafuZvlod maTi
dakaveba ar moxdeboda, albaT,
es saCvenebeli dakaveba ar yofila ...
_ iciT, gamoZiebas Tavisi
argumentebi aqvs, magram erTxel
da samudamod am qveyanaSi Seiqmna sasamarTlo, arsebobs sasamarTlo, funqcionirebs sasamarTlo da vfiqrob, swored sasamarTlos ganaCeni iqneba aq mTavari.
_ ramdenadac CemTvis cnobilia, procesi imdenad did xans
grZeldeboda, rom SeuZlebelia
samarTaldamcav organoebs eqvsi
Tvis winaT mainc ar codnodaT
am jgufis saqmianobis Sesaxeb,
ratom moxda dakaveba maincdamainc axla?
_ kargia rom es kiTxva da-
Turme raRac patriotuli niSniT unda gaaproteston afxazeTis Tema da aCveneben yovlad
uzneo klipebs (anu uzneobaa
maT, rom gaakeTes klipi) Tu
rogor moxda am teritoriebis
okupacia da viTomda amis gasaprotesteblad eZaxian socialurad sakmaod SeWirvebul
adamainebs, maT Soris arian
devnilebi, romelTa mdgomareobac miiyvanes pikamde, ukidures gaWirvebamde Tavisi mmarTvelobis periodSi. am fonze,
rasakvirvelia, Tqveni eWvebi
imis Taobaze, rom isini saxel-
moxda dakavebac, ase CaTvales
saWirod imisda miuxedavad ra
politikuri situaciaa Seqmnili. es erTi, meore, rac Tqveni
gazeTis meSveobiT aucileblad
unda ganvacxado, me piradad, nebismieri viziti romeli ministrisac ar unda iyos es, ar ukavSirdeba piradad mas an piradad
mis uwyebas, Tavdacvis saministros maRalCinosnebi igive Cemi
gundis wevrebi arian, mTavrobas
warmoadgenen da ara konkretulad romelime ministrs, am SemTxvevaSi alasanias, Cems megobarsa da TanamebrZols. rasakvirvelia, uxerxuloba Seeqmna
ministrs, magram ara marto ministrs, mTlianad xelisuflebas. is vizitiT Tavis pirad sa-
mwifo gadatrialebas gegmaven
safuZvelmoklebuli ar aris,
magram sxva Temaa amis resursi
ramdenad gaaCniaT. vfiqrob,
adamianebi kargad acnobiereben
imas, rom 2008 wlis agvisto
TavisiT ar damdgara. 2008
wlis agvistos omamde kategoriulad ignorirebuli iyo yvela rCeva da xelSewyoba Cveni
dasavleli partniorebis. Zalian saeWvo viTareba iyo, yvela
movlena ganviTarda swored
ise, rogorc awyobda ruseTs.
diax, yvela movlena da mimarTuleba swored ise ganviTarda,
rom Semdgariyo 2008 wlis agvistos omi.
_ axla aris saubrebi, rom
es aqcia imarTeba ruseTidan,
ruseTis reaqciul Zalebs awyobT destabilizacia saqarTveloSio...
_ marTvaze verafers getyviT, magram logikuri jaWvi
migvaniSnebs imaze, rom Tu destabilizaciazea saubari, rasakvirvelia, ruseTs modunebuli
da arastabiluri qveyana ufro
awyobs, vidre Zlieri da am SemTxvevaSic saakaSvilis interesebi ratomRac kidev erTxel
emTxveva ruseTis interesebs.
rac Seexeba meore mxares Cvens
ruseTTan ekonomikur Tu sazogadoebriv urTierTobas, es
swored is aris, rac Cvens sazogadoebas awyobs mravali mizezis gamo. pirveli, stabiluroba, meore, unda vicodeT, rom
arc erTi biznesmeni fexs ar
Semodgams CvenTan Tuki denTis
suni trialebs da ai, kidev erTi damTxveva Cveni arakeTilismsurvelebisa da mixeil saakaSvilisa da misi gundis survilebis.
qeTi xomeriki
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iuri meCiTovi: mimaCnia, rom im pirobebSi, roca Cveni parlamenti, samwuxarod, ar eTanxmeba sazogadoebriv azrs, umarTavi procesebisken mivdivarT.
`lazares~ Sekreba Zalian mniSvnelovania. es unda gaxdes sazogadoebrivi moZraobis dasawyisi, rogorc, magaliTad, saxalxo fronti. igi unda iqnas mudmivmoqmedi organo da dakompleqtdes iseTi adamianebiT, romlebsac sazogadoebaSi avtorite ti aqvT.
yvela vxedavT, ra situaciaSic varT. televiziebSi saubroben mxolod `nacionalebi~ da is adamianebi, romlebsac gansx vavebuli xedvebi aqvT saqarTvelos momavalze, miCqmalulebi da ugulebelyofilebi arian. gamodis, rom sazogadoebas ar aqvs
ufleba politikur asparezze Tavisi azri gamoxatos.
iyos is 200 partia, magram Cven gvWirdeba iseTi moZraoba, romelic realurad Seuwyobs xels, momavali xelisufleba
iyos ufro qmedunariani da principuli.
Znelia imis moTmena, rasac `nacionalebi~ sCadian. Cven unda mivxedoT Cvens qveyanas. Cven TviTon unda gavceT pasuxi `nacionalebs~. Cvens qveyanas Cven Tu ar mivxedeT, sxva vin mixedavs?!
rac Semexeba me, am moZraobis, anu qarTuli sazogadoebis gverdiT var.
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saerTo gazeTi
alasanias, SeiZleba, hgonia,
rom radgan viRacebi sadRac
taSs ukraven, viRacam ndobis
reitingi dauwera, viRac ki ambobs, rom endoba, xalxic imave
azrzea. arada, vinmem xom unda
uTxras, ara, batono ministro,
xalxs ar uyvarxar da verc verasodes
Segiyvarebs, radgan
amis mizezi Tavad mieci sxvadsxva droso.
rogor SeiZleba im adamianebma da maTma Wirisuflebma
Seiyvaron alasania, vinc 26 maiss rusTavelze cemes, daarbies,
daapatimres, mokles, alasaniam
ki isini uxarisxo qarTvelebad
Camowera;
rogor SeiZleba im xalxma Seiyvaros, romelic Semswrea imisa, rom sanam ivaniSvili
gamoCndeboda politikur orbitaze, okupanti ruseTis sagareo
saqmeTa ministrisa da ruseTis
mier okupirebuli saqarTvelos
qarTveli politikosis urTierTobaze Riad saubrobdnen, rom
alasaniam rusebs fuli mosTxova `raRacis~ sanacvlod...
rogor SeiZleba im xalxma Seiyvaros, romelsac axsovs ra gaakeTa alasaniam ra
gaakeTa 2009 wlis aprilis gaerTianebuli opoziciis quCis
aqciebze...
rogor SeiZleba, im xalxs Seuyvardes, romelsac axsovs, im gaavebuli Sexla-Semoxlis dros alasania giga bokerias rom xvdeboda xan Riad da
xan farulad...
rogor SeiZleba xalxs
misi qveynis is Tavdacvis ministri uyvardes, romelic, egonaT,
civ zamTarSi samxedro bazebs
aTvalierebda avRaneTSi da am
dros saamod Tbil dubaiSi Zebnil Tu saZebar `nacelitasTan~
erTad imyofeboda...
rogor SeiZleba xalxs
is Tavdacvis ministri uyvardes,
romelmac gaxurebul cecxlze
navTi daasxa, swored xalxis saZulvel partiaze kategoriulad ganacxada, me ar vTvli `nacionalur moZraobas~ mtrado...
rogor SeiZleba xalxs
is ministri uyvardes, romelsac
pirdapir daado xeli arasamTavrobo organizaciis warmomadgenelma nikoloz mJavanaZem, rom
daTa axalaia irakli alasaniam
gadaiyvana sazRvarze...
rogor SeiZleba xalxs
is Tavdacvis ministri uyvrdes,
romelic xan
ambobdes `Cveni
erovnuli interesebis umTavresi prioriteti ruseTTan urTierTobis mowesrigebao~ (21.09
2011w) da xan ruseTis winaaRmdeg sabrZolvelad aSS-is saomari raketebis ganlagebas iTxovdes saqarTveloSi...
rogor SeiZleba xalxs
is Tavdacvis ministri uyvardes,
romelsac meomari emzar kviciani mxolod erT kiTxvaze pasu-
#38 (305), 5.XI, 2014 w.
irakli alasanias batoni
norlandi ki endoba,
magram qarTveli xalxi ara!
xis gacemas sTxovs wlebia ukve:
_ mipasuxos alasaniam, ratom
Caabara kodorio?
da bolos, ra didad Seicxada TviT alasaniam (sxvaze jer
araferi vTqvaT) misi uwyebis
TanamSromlebis dakavebis ambavi,
misi TanamSromlebi ki ara, TviT
alasania ar iyo biZina ivaniSvilma rom mTeli mTavrobis gasagonad uTxra, Senze ambebi momdis, finansur sakiTxebSi cudad
erevi da ar Semetlikino axla,
Torem kancelariaSi oTxi kacia
amosuli, amoviyvan da dagimtkicebeno?
rac Seexeba batoni aSS-is
elCis gamoxatul ndobas alasaniasadmi, Tqven, batonebo, ase endobodiT mixeil saakaSvilsac,
Cven _ ara; axla, Zebnili saakaSvili Tqven gyavT Sefarebuli da
Tu igivenairad endobiT pativcemul alsaniasac, axlave wageyvanaT, Cven mainc araferSi gvargia.
axla konkretulad irakli
alasanias Tavdacvis saministroSi momxdar e.w `kabelebze~ gadavideT, Tumca, manamde aRvniSnoT, rom ama wlis 29 agvistos
prezidentma margvelaSvilma daawinaura kriminali oficrebi.
Tu ratom movixseniebT maT ase,
komentaridan SeityobT.
tristan wiTelaSvili: _ `prezidenti arafer SuaSia, mas dasawinaurebel oficerTa sia miawoda Tavdacvis saministrom, ministrs miawoda generalurma Stabma. Stabma rodesac ministrs warudgina sia, im
wardginebaSi xom unda yofiliyo misi warsulis Sesaxeb, ra
dros da ra damsaxurebebi aqvT,
TviT ministma vinRa waradgina
prezidentTan? SemTxveviT aseTi
saqmeebi ar xdeba, esaa gamiznuli qmedeba. gvarebs dagisaxelebT: Salva vaxtangis Ze ZibZibaZe (mitingebis damrbevi), nikoloz zurabis Ze aglaZe (mitingebis damrbevi), giorgi tarielis Ze babunaSvili _ es ukanaskneli pirwavardnili `nacionalia~ da danarCenebis msgavsad,
isic mitingebis damrbevi iyo;
giorgi givis Ze kereseliZe _ am
adamians gansakuTrebuli danaSaulebebi aqvs Cadenili. is axalaias dawinaurebuli kadria,
lojistikis sardlad daniSna,
dRemde lojistikis sardalia
da prezidenti margvelaSvili
aniWebs polkovnikis wodebas.
_ konkretulad ra danaSauli aqvs Cadenili...
_ axalaias dros Cavida osiauris samxedro bazaze, gamoarCia is oficrebi, romlebic ar
gamoirCeodnen politikuri aqtivobiT, ar iyvnen politizirebulebi da ar uWerdnen mxars
`nacionalur moZraobas~, gaaSiSvla TxuTmetamde oficeri,
TxrilSi Cayara, sawvavi gadasxa
da cocxlad dawvis imitacia gaukeTa...
amis Semdeg, gaCianSi lojistikis bazaze Cavida, dekemberi
iqneboda, gamoiyvana is piradi
Semadgenloba, romelmac ar miiRo monawileoba sakuTari xalxis darbevebSi, gaaSiSvla 50mde jariskaci da yinvaSi placze daayena 5 saaTis ganmavlobaSi...
iyo aseTi, polkovniki malxaz koberiZe, afxazeTSi naomari
oficeri, vaJkaci kaci, Cem batalionSi ibrZoda da SedegSi ga-
nana devdariani: aRmaSfoTebelia `nacionalebis~
utifroba. aSkara demagogias mimarTaven da sazogadoebis nawili SecdomaSi SehyavT. irma nadiraSvili xmas
rogor unda iRebdes, roca Tavis qmarTan erTad erT weliwadSi 600 000 lari waiRo biujetidan, sxvadasxva
samsaxurSi erTdroulad rom iyo gaformebuli, axla
nepotizmze gvelaparakeba. esaa danaSauli.
rogori kargi xelisuflebac ar unda gvyavdes, is
xalxis moyvanilia da xalxma Tavisi Tavi Tu drodadro ar Seaxsena, is komfortulad igrZnobs Tavs. xelisuflebam xalxis xma unda moisminos. xandaxan isic, rac
Zalian ar moewonebaT. Cveni xma unda gavagebinoT xelisuflebas. unda gavafrTxiloT, rom `nacionalebisgan~
didi safrTxe aris mosalodneli.
agrZela samxedro samsaxuri.
cxonebuli, zurgSeqceuli iyo
`nacmoZraobasTan~, ar Tvlida,
rom samxedro piri politikur
procesebSi unda yofiliyo Careuli. erT dResac, kereseliZe
rom mivida, morige iyo bazaze da
cemaSi mokla kereseliZem. Semdeg, ra, adgnen, gaaTeTres yvelaferi da ojaxs ramdenime saaTis
Semdeg Seatyobines TiTqos gulma umtyuna. ra gulio, _ nana ambobda, _ Cem qmars guli ar awuxebdao... eqspertizis daskvnac
gaayalbes, absoluturad yvelaferi... rac ecva, forma, is tansacmelic gaaqres, fleSka hqonda, Tan daatarebda, isic gaaqres
_ es gaakeTa yvelaferi kereseliZem da dRes awinaureben!
grigol eldaris Ze WeliZe
_ piri, romelic aqtiurad monawileobda darbevebSi da qmnida
zonder-jgufebs; zurab Joras
Ze TabuaSvili – esec baCana axalaias kadri, misi yurmoWrili
mona; elguja avTandilis Ze mo-
iyvnen da Cvenebebs iZleodnen Cadenil danaSaulebebTan dakavSirebiT, magram...
Tavdacvis saministroSi alasanaim, rogorc ityvian, Zalian
cudi roli iTamaSa, Tavidan bolomde SeinarCuna axalaias damnaSave kadrebi da dRes saxze
gvaqvs ukve Cadenili danaSauli
_ kaiSauria axali, Torem danarCenebi Zvelebi arian da gasakviria Cveuli saqmianoba rom gaegrZelebinaT?
_ martivi SekiTxva maqvs da
Tqvenc martivad mipasuxeT: SesaZlebelia Tu ara, rom Tavdacvis saministroSi ise Catardes
msgavsi fuladi operaciebi, rom
saqmis kursSi ar iyos ministri
Tu ara, ministris moadgile mainc?
_ gamorixulia! msgavsi operaciebi, dawyebuli Sesyidvebidan damTavrebuli tenderebiT,
rac dakavSirebulia Tanxebis mimoqcevasTan, rac aRemateba garkveul raodenobas, xazgasmiT
tristan wiTelaSvili
woneliZe _ baCana axalaias kadri, misi kidev erTi yurmoWrili
mona, nebismieri danaSaulebrivi
davalebis Semsrulebeli; besik
oTaris Ze gofoZe _ baCana axalaias kadri, darbevebis aqtiuri monawile da Tavdacvis saministroSi oficrebis cemis monawile da amasTanave, am oficrebis ojaxebze zewolaSi; ra xdeba, Tavdacvis saministro kriminals axalisebs?! amaT dRes
polkovnikis wodeba ki ar unda
mianiWo, prokuraturaSi unda
vambob, Tavdacvis ministris gareSe ar xdeba!
Tqven ar migiqceviaT yuradReba imisTvis, rom zugdidSi
wagebis garda, avRaneTidan alasaniam xmebis 84% Camoutana `nacionalebs~? ratom aravin kiTxulobs, ratom moiges avRaneTSi `nacionalebma~?
Tavdacvis saministroSi aris
Waobi da iqneba manam, sanam iqidan ar ganTavisufldebian `nacionalebis~ zonderkadrebi!
daviT qavTaria
15-Si aris maTi aqcia,
vinc dagvRupa da
vinc dagvaqcia!
saerTo gazeTi
#38 (305), 5.XI, 2014 w.
msoflio presis mixedviT
afxazeTs ruseTTan urTierTobaSi koreqtivebi Seaqvs
afxazeTSi dasrulda ruseTTan mokavSireobisa da integraciis Sesaxeb xelSekrulebis proeqtis ganxilva, romelic ruseTis
mxarem moamzada. uaxloes dReebSi
soxumi moskovs warudgens Tavis
variants, romelic
SeTavazebulisgan gansxvavdeba, kerZod, masSi ar iqneba punqti, romelic ruseTelebisTvis afxazeTis respublikis moqalaqeobis SeRavaTian
miniWebas exeba. araoficialuri
informaciiT, afxazuri varianti
ukve gagzavnilia moskovSi.
cnobili soxumeli politologi inal xaSigis cnobiT, afxazuri varianti jerjerobiT bolomde momzadebuli ar aris: `mis
Sedgenaze sul cota ori instituti muSaobda _ prezidentis
administracia da parlamenti.
vidre xelSekrulebis proeqti
moskovSi gaigzavneba, aucilebelia saerTo poziciis SemuSaveba.
dokumenti axla Sejerebis procesSia~.
ruseTis saxelmwifo saTaTbiroSi SemuSavebuli xelSekrulebis proeqti afxazeTSi sakmaod
emociurad ganixileboda. imdenad
emociurad, rom prezidenti raul
xajimba iZulebuli gaxda ganmartebebi gaekeTebina. respublikis
liderma sTxova sazogadoebriobas, Tavi SeekavebinaT naCqarevi
daskvnebisgan da xelSekrulebis
proeqti ar mieRoT rogorc ruseTisgan warmodgenili angariSi
an rogorc ultimatumi.
`ruseTs surs gulRia megobruli dialogi da amasve elis
Cvengan. axali xelSekruleba
2008 wels dadebul sabazo dokuments ki ar Caanacvlebs, aramed
Seavsebs mas. Tavdacvis saerTo
konturis Camoyalibeba, saqarTvelosTan sazRvris dacvis gaZlie-
msoflios wamyvan saxelmwifoebs gansxvavebuli mosazrebebi aqvT
berlinis kedlis dangrevisa da
`civi omis~ dasrulebis Sesaxeb.
berlinis kedlis aCrdili
kvlav Tan sdevs msoflios. betonis filebi da ekliani mavTulxlarTebi, romlebic qveyanasac da
kontinentsac yofda, TiTqmis aRar
arsebobs. miuxedavad amisa, berlinis kedeli kvlav seriozul problemad rCeba. msoflios ar gaaCnia
erTiani Sefaseba, ratom daingra
igi, xolo Tu ufro farTo konteqstiT ganvixilavT _ ratom damarcxda evropuli komunizmi da
damTavrda `civi omi~. arsebobs
oTxi gabatonebuli mosazreba da
TiToeuli erTmaneTs ewinaaRmdegeba. es mxolod mecnieruli kamaTi
rodia. rogor afasebs politikuri elita warsuls, xom ar aris
saerTo istoriis umniSvnelovanesi momenti axlandeli saerTaSoriso urTierTobis arastabilurobis mizezi? _ ai, SekiTxvebi, romlebzec sapirispiro daskvnebi arsebobs.
amerikelebs `civi omis~ damTavreba istoriis triumfad miaCniaT. `RvTis SewevniT, amerikam gaimarjva~, _ ganacxada ufrosma
jorj buSma. Sekavebis politikis
aTwleulebis Semdeg ronald reiganma gasca brZaneba _ `daangrieT
es kedeli~, xolo kremlma aRiara
metismetad ZviradRirebuli da gamalebuli SeaiaraRebis uazroba da
isic damorCilda.
sabWoTa kavSiris kapitulacia
gaxda simbolo ara marto amerikis
msoflio batonobisa, aramed amerikuli faseulobebisac. amerikelebi
metismetad damajereblad xsnidnen
moskovsa da soxums Soris axali xelSekrulebis
gaformebas saqarTvelos abraleben
reba, ruseT-afxazeTis sazRvarze
xalxisa da tvirTis Tavisufali
gadaadgileba, sabaJo procedurebis gamartiveba _ ai, ras gvTavazobs ruseTis mxare da es yvelaferi Cvens interesebs Seesabameba.
am ideebis uaryofa Seaferxebs
ekonomikis Semdgom ganviTarebas
da Cveni xalxis winaSe arsebuli
bevri problemis mogvarebas. rac
mTavaria, gamousworebel zians
miayenebs rusul-afxazur urTierTobas~, _ ganacxada xajimbam.
prezidenti arwmunebs Tanamemamuleebs, rom axali xelSekruleba safrTxes ar uqmnis maTs suverenitets. da Tu aris iseTi
ram, rac SesaZloa saSiSroeba iyo
afxazebisTvis, dokumentis saboloo redaqciaSi aRar iqneba. `ruseTTan xelSekrulebis sakiTxma
sazogadoeba ki ar unda gayos,
aramed gaaerTianos~, _ ase fiqrobs afxazeTis lideri.
respublikis sagareo saqmeTa
ministrma viaCeslav Cirikbam
afxazeTis televiziiT gamosvlisas ganacxada: `saqarTvelo ufro
mSvidobismoyvare rom yofiliyo,
Cven SesaZloa arc dagvWirveboda
es xelSekruleba. moskovsa da
soxums Soris axali xelSekrulebis gaformeba saqarTvelos agresiulma politikam ganapiroba.
misive TqmiT, afxazeTisa da
ruseTisTvis samxreTis flangis
usafrTxoeba uaRresad mniSvnelovania da amas orive mxare aRiarebs. `erTad unda vimoqmedoT,
radgan saqarTvelo nato-Si Sesvlas apirebs da amerikis SeerTebuli Statebi Crdiloatlantikur aliansSi mis Sesvlas lobirebs. nato-s maRali donis warmomadgenloba stumrobs Tbiliss,
molaparakebebs marTavs. CvenTvis
ucnobia, ris Sesaxeb msjeloben
isini, magram erTi ram aSkaraa: sa-
qarTvelo nato-s wevrobisTvis
emzadeba, rac afxazeTsa da ruseTs pirdapir safrTxes uqmnis.
mdgomareobas arTulebs ukrainaSi, siriaSi, axlo aRmosavleTsa
da eraySi arsebuli sirTuleebi.
am gamowvevebs upasuxod ver davtovebT~, _ acxadebs Cirikba.
afxazuri mxaris ukmayofileba gamoiwvia proeqtis im punqtebma, romlebic suverenitetis
nawilobriv delegirebas gulisxmobs. aseTebia: `SeTanxmebuli
sagareo politika~, `Tavdacvis
saerTo sivrce~, gaerTianebuli
TavdacviTi infrastruqtura~,
`sazRvrebis erToblivi kontroli~... unda aRiniSnos, rom am debulebebis umravlesoba sinamdvileSi moqmedebs da `SeRavaTian
redaqciaSi~ ukmayofileba aRar
mohyveba. yvelaze metad maT awuxebT xelSekrulebis proeqtis
is punqtebi, romlebic rusebisTvis afxazeTis moqalaqeobis miniWebis wesebs amartivebs. afxazeTis mcirericxovani mosaxleoba
yovelTvis ufrTxis eTnikuri xasiaTis cvlilebebs, rac SemdgomSi zegavlenas moaxdens respublikis saxelmwifoebriv mowyobaze.
afxazeTis garSemo Seqmnili
garemoebebis gamo saqarTvelos
prezidentma uSiSroebis sabWo
moiwvia da dasvlel partniorebs
mimarTa TxovniT, zegavlena moaxdinon ruseTze, radgan `axali egreT wodebuli xelSekruleba
qarTuli avtonomiis aneqsiaa~. evropis qveynebSi vizitebiT myofma
Tavdacvis ministrma irakli alasaniam safrangeTisa da belgiisgan
miiRo mxardaWeris dapireba. axla
jeri germaniazea.
saqarTvelos yofili xelisufleba acxadebs, rom ukiduresad SeSfoTebulia afxazeTis bediT da axlandeli xelisuflebis
umoqmedobiT. zogierTi eqspertis
SefasebiT, `erTianma nacionalurma moZraobam~ wamoiwyo waugebeli
TamaSi _ 15 noembers afxazeTis
aneqsiis gamo saprotesto aqcias
marTavs da xalxs quCaSi gamosvlisken mouwodebs. xelisuflebis
mcdelobas, xeli SeuSalos saerToerovnul manifestacias, sazogadoeba araerTgvarovnad gaigebs.
arada, mTeli saqarTvelosTvis
afxazeTis problema mtkivneulia
da masTan dakavSirebuli iniciativis oponentebisTvis daTmobac
xels ar aZlevs axlandel xelisuflebas, miT umetes eqs-prezident mixeil saakaSvilis amaswinandeli gancxadebis Semdeg: momaval arCevnebamde kidev ori welia
darCenili, magram dro ar iTmens,
axlandel reJims, romelsac qveyana ufskrulisken mihyavs, dResve
unda SevebrZoloTo. saqarTvelos
prokuraturam saakaSvilis es gancxadeba sisxlis samarTlis im
saqmes daurTo, romliTac yofil
prezidents bralad edeba antisaxelmwifoebrivi saqmianoba. ruseT-afxazeTis
xelSekrulebis
bedze es, ra Tqma unda, ar aisaxeba. Tbiliss praqtikulad aranairi berketi ar gaaCnia, viTareba
Secvalos.
berlinis kedeli: rogor moCans igi amerikis,
ruseTis, evropisa da CineTis samrekloebidan
`civi omis~ damTavrebis mizezebs:
marTalia is, vis mxarezec Zalaa.
Cven ki yovelTvis marTali viyaviT.
xSirad gabatonebuli mosazrebebi istoriuli movlenebis Sesaxeb imdenad popularuli xdeba,
rom ufro meti mniSvneloba eniWeba maT, vidre sizustes. `XX saukunis omebma Tuki ram gvaswavla,
aris is, rom SegviZlia mivaRwioT
Cvens miznebs, davicvaT Cveni faseulobebi da Tavisuflebis Zala
upiratesi gavxadoT~, _ ganmarta
bil klintonma. `modiT, gavixsenoT Cveni istoria da aRvasruloT
Cveni daniSnuleba _ kidev erTxel
SevcvaloT msoflio~, _ qadagebda
barak obama.
evropelebi ar eTanxmebian amerikelebs. komunizmis kraxi ar gamouwvevia Zalas. swored Zalis
uqonlobam ganapiroba xaverdovani
revoluciebi aRmosavleT evropaSi. evropelebis azriT, kontinentze mSvidobianoba SemTxveviTi ar
yofila. pirvel msoflio omSi evropam TiTqmis Tavi moikla. igive
moxda meore msoflio omis drosac da yvela mixvda, rom birTvuli iaraRis epoqaSi mesamed amis
gadatanas veRar SeZlebdnen. amitomac gadawyvites erTiani sivrcis Seqmna, gansxvavebuli ekonomikis, religiis, kulturisa da xalxebis gaerTianeba, iseTi sazogadoebis Seqmna, romelSic Zalis gamoyenebis safrTxe ar iarsebebda. evropam daamarcxa omi! _ siamaye,
rac safuZvlad udevs am daskvnas,
ufro aRmatebulia, vidre amerikelTa rwmena _ msoflios yvela
xalxi cdilobs, maT mihbaZos. TumcaRa es versia ganmartavs ara marto evropis warmatebas, aramed komunizmis kraxsac.
gorbaCovis imedi evropasTan
integraciis Sesaxeb maleve gaqra.
nato farTovdeboda, miuxedavad
imisa, rom aliansis liderebi irwmunebodnen, misi sazRvrebi gaerTianebuli germaniis aRmosavleT
sazRvars ar gascdebao. polonelebi, Cexebi, slovakebi da ungrelebi ukanmouxedavad mitrialdnen evropisken. postsabWoTa ekonomika
CamoiSala. rusebi Tvalyurs adevnebdnen amerikelTa samxedro Zalis demonstrirebas balkaneTSi,
avRaneTSi, axlo aRmosavleTSi,
CeCneTsa da saqarTveloSi ruseTis
SeWram sayovelTao aRSfoTeba gamoiwvia. xalxi, romelic SiSis
zars scemda dasavleTs, iZulebuli gaxda, sayvedurebi moesmina
maTgan, visac samezobloSi mSvidobis damyareba surda, magram imavdroulad mzad iyo, msoflios nebismier wertilSi umciresi provokaciis gamo Tavisi jarebi gaegzavna.
putins am movlenebma Wkua aswavla: ar SeiZleba endo dasavleTs. ruseTs pativs scemen maSin,
roca misi eSiniaT. amerikas samxedro sferoSi ki ar daupirispirda,
iseT qveynebTan gamonaxa saerTo
ena, romlebsac amerikis ambiciuri
hegemonoba didad ar moswonda.
amasTan gamoiyena Tavisi upiratesobani: energoresursebi, kiberteq-
nologiebis ganviTarebis maRali
done da gaero-s uSiSroebis sabWoSi vetos ufleba Tavisi nacionalisturi intersebis sarealizaciod. dae, evropelebma ilaparakon, amerikelebma ibaqibuqon, Cven
ki vimoqmedoT, _ fiqrobda putini.
CinelebisTvis 1989 wlis mTavari movlena berlinis kedlis
dangreva ki ar iyo, aramed tiananmenis moednis janyi. `yvelaferi
unda gavakeToT, rom aRmosavleT
evropis movlenebma CineTis saSinao ganviTarebaze gavlena ar moaxdinos~, _ aseTi iyo CineTis kompartiis liderTa mTavari amocana
1989 wlis martSi. or-sam TveSi
moedanze Sekrebili xalxis winaaRmdeg tankebi da tyviamfrqvevebi
gamoiyenes, riTac Zalaufleba SeinarCunes. `miiyvaneT dawyebuli saqme bolomde. dasavleTi male yvelafers daiviwyebs~, _ acxadebda
im drois yvelaze sastiki lideri.
xelisuflebam xalxTan dado faruli SeTanxmeba: politikuri
sklerozi ekonomikuri zrdis sanacvlod. da vai, mas, vinc am SeTanxmebis pirobas daarRvevs.
1989 wlis Semdeg aRmocenebuli `axali mSvidoba~ imedismomcemad Canda. berlinis kedlis dangreva warsulisgan gamofxizleba
egonaT. roca am movlenis mizezebsa da Sedegebze sxvadasxva qveyanas
gansxvavebuli versiebi aqvs, warsuls eZleva Sansi, bolos gaicinos.
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saerTo gazeTi
gvesaubreba analitikosi
demur giorxeliZe:
_ batono demur, Tavdacvis
saministroSi momxdar faqtze
gansxvavebuli komentarebi keTdeba. Cinovnikebis daWera ucnaurad
daemTxva droSi `Tavisufali demokratebis~ moaxloebul yrilobas da 15 noembers dagegmil `nacionalebis~ aqcias. rogor fiqrobT, ra politikur procesebs
ukavSirdeba yovelive?
_ es niSnavs, rom ukve meoTxejer igive wreze mivdivarT,
imave WaobSi varT, isev, im mentalitetiT, imave politikuri ZalebiT, dapirispirebac Cveul reJimSi grZeldeba. am dros, yofili saxelisuflebo Zalis lideri _ saakaSvili qveynis, xelisuflebis damxobaze teleekranebidan gvesaubreba. provokaciuli
Zala, romelmac lamis daaCoqa saqarTvelo, axali xelisuflebis
wyalobiT, dRes, imaze metad Zalamokrebili, organizebuli da
materialurad uzrunvelyofilia,
vidre xelisuflebaSi yofnisas
iyo. es Zala kargad gaTvlili
teqnologiebis safuZvelze moqmedebs. rac Seexeba 15 noembers
`nacmoZraobis~ mier daanonsebul
aqcias, es absoluturi cinizmia.
ruseTma, qarTuli miwebi, swored
am xelisuflebis dros daipyro
da qveyana umZimes CixSi Seiyvana,
rac wina xelisuflebis da saakaSvilis danaSaulia. dRes, ruseTSi, ra scenariTac ar unda
ganviTardes movlenebi, saqarTvelosTvis riskebi, yvela SemTxvevaSi, izrdeba, rac SeiZleba umZimesi SedegiT dasruldes. qarTul
politikaSi ki araferi icvleba
_ isev idea-fiqsebis deklarireba
grZeldeba. modiT,
pirdapir
vTqvaT, Tu ruseTi am dapirispirebaSi mxolod omis SemTxvevaSi
damarcxdeba, es saqarTveloSi
ruseTis politikis ganxorcielebas Seuwyobs xels. es provokaciuli politikaa, rac saxelmwifos usafrTxoebis uzrunvelyofisgan Sorsaa. es igive kalapotSi darCenaa, ramac qveyana umZimes mdgomareobamde miiyvana. rac
Seexeba alasanias garSemo ganviTarebul movlenebs, cxadia, vercerTi politikuri lideri, aRmasrulebel xelisuflebaSi Tanamdebobaze yofniT, daculi ver
iqneba, rom mis sistemaSi raime
darRveva, korufcia ar moxdeba.
esaa ukontrolo sistema. arsebobda kontrolis palata, romelic moSales. mis nacvlad, sasacilo organo Seqmnes e.w. saxelmwifo auditis samsaxuri, romelsac saTaveSi wina xelisuflebis erT-erTi saxe udgas. Tu
ras akeTebs es organo, mgoni,
kargad TanamSromlebmac ar ician.
amitom, saxelmwifo fulTan dakavSirebiT, rogorc wina xelisuflebis dros iyo ganukiTxavi
xarjva, igive grZeldeba. aqve tenderebsac minda Sevexo, sasaciloa
#38 (305), 5.XI, 2014 w.
imaze saubaric ki, rom obieqturad tardeba da Rirseulebi imarjveben. rogorc adre, axlac, tenderi daxuruli sistemaa. diax,
tenderebs, ZiriTadad, axlac saakaSvilis xeldasmuli firmebi
igeneb.
_ am movlenebma xom ar SeiZleba biZgi misces koaliciis daSlas an Tundac `Tavisufali de-
cxadia, ara erTmmarTvelis uflebiT, magram gasaRebi yovelTvis
Sss-Si unda iyos, rac qveynis
usafrTxoebis garantia. Tu Sss
ar mogvwons, maSin kanonebi davxvewoT da saxelmwifos umniSvnelovanesi instituti im normebSi
CavayenoT, rac aucilebelia. am
institutis mongreva, dauSvebelia. Turme, gasaRebebi ucxour
_ vfiqrob, arCevnebamde sakmao
droa imisaTvis, rom situacia gadalagdes. darwmunebuli var, igive konfiguraciiT, koalicia arCevnebze ver miva. rac Seexeba,
`nacmoZraobas~, xelisuflebis
xelSewyobiT, igi, dRes, kargad
organizebuli Zalaa. vfiqrob,
dgeba periodi, rodesac realobaSi sul sxva organizaciuli
struqturebi gaCndeba. imitom,
rom sateliti partiebis imedi,
saqarTveloSi, aRaravis aqvs.
iseTma partiebma politikuri momavali Tavad gainadgures.Bbolo,
TviTmmarTvelobis
arCevnebze
70%-mde amomrCeveli arCevnebze
ar mivida, rac imaze migvaniSnebs,
rom sazogadoebaSi sxva Zalis
didi molodinia. es rogor moxdeba, Zneli saTqmelia imitom,
rom orwliani periodis prognozireba, saqarTveloSi, aravis Se-
vebs. es mimdobi, miamiti adamianis
saqcielia, romelic isev marCenalis, beladis, patronis imedzea.
erTidaigive xalxi dRes erTs irCevs, xval meores. es niSnavs, rom
CvenTan politikuri mexsiereba
ar muSaobs, adamianebi realurad
ar akvirdebian xalxs, visac endobian da xelisuflebaSi mohyavT,
maT Sedegebs ar Txoven. bolo
Txovna iyo cvlilebebi, rac ar
ganxorcielebula. Tumca Cveni
moqalaqeebi mainc icvlebian, kritikulni xdebian. droa saWiro,
rom bolos da bolos qarTuli
sazogadoebis segmentacia moxdes,
raTa maT garkveuli msoflmxedvelobis mixedviT airCion politikuri partiebi da dasruldes
qarTveli xalxis gamaognebeli
Secdoma, roca xan erTs aZlevs
yvela xmas da xan meores. es niSnavs rom demokratiuli arCevnebi
demur giorxeliZe:
nacionalebis mier afxazeTis
TemasTan dakavSirebiT
aqciis gamarTva cinizmia...
mokratebis~ da sxvaTa calke subieqtad gamoyofas?
_ vfiqrob, es kargad gaTvlili qmedebebia. ar mesmis, ratom
aris alasanias Tema win wamoweuli. amaSi, erTaderT mizans vxedav: politikuri cxovrebis kuluarebSi Zalian kargad verkvevi,
SesaniSnavad vici, ras niSnavs
yovelive, Tundac, faruli mosmenebis Sesaxeb kanonproeqtis 15
noembris aqciis wina periodze
damTxveva. es xelisuflebis moryevis mcdelobaa, aseve, biZgi isedac usicocxlo koaliciis daSlisken da im konturebis moxazva, romelic 2 wlis winac ki
cnobili iyo. amitomacaa, `respublikelebis~ pozicia xelisuflebisgan gansxvavebuli. arada,
isini Tavidan bolomde biZina ivaniSvilis damsaxurebiT arian iq
sadac arian da ara xalxis surviliT. `respublikelebi~ jer
saakaSvilma gaacocxla, Semdeg
ivaniSvilma uzarmazari finanasuri ineqcia gaukeTa, fexze daayena da faqtobrivad, xelisuflebis erT-erTi mTavari Sto Caabara. ase, rom isini axlac ise moiqcevian, rogorc iqcevian bolo
26 welia. araferi gasakviri amaSi araa. am partias Tavis Sexedulebebi aqvs, magram mudam sxvisi
wyalobiT aRwevda raRacas. maT
kargad ician destruqciuli moqmedebebi rogor ganaxorcielon.
rac Seexeba absurdul winaaRmdegobas farul mosmenebTan dakavSirebiT, civilizebul samyaroSi
kompaniebs unda hqondeT, anu
ucxouri kapitaliT Seqmnil qarTul kavSirgabmulobebs. evropaSi, Zalian maRali kvalifikaciis
adamianebi, Cvenze icinian, rogorc Cans, amaT Wkua ar aqvTo. es
politikuri provokaciis mizniT
Semogdebuli kanonia, romelic
isaxavs mizans Sss daasustos. es
mixeil saakaSvilis 2001-03
wlebis moqmedebebis zusti game-
uZlia, situaciebi momentalurad
SeiZleba Seicvalos. am kuTxiT,
seriozuli moZraobaa dawyebuli.
adamianebi, romelTac TavianTi
Svilebis momavali awuxebT, aucileblad moZebnian erTmaneTTan
gzas en-je-oebisa Tu partiuli
struqturebis gareSec. aq, Tavisufali, Zalian mamaci, gonieri
adamianebis erTobam unda imuSaos.
winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, eseni ga-
arqivis foto
orebaa. esaa scenari, roca jer
Sss-s Seuties, Semdeg sxva ZiriTad institutebs da SevardnaZe,
romelic am revoluciis sulisCamdgmeli iyo da amas yvelanairad mxars uWerda, galokili datoves. Tu es xelisuflebac SevardnaZis gzas gaimeorebs, imave
finals miiRebs.
_ batono demur, ras unda velodoT qveyanaSi
koaliciis
daSlis an subieqtebis gamoyofis
SemTxvevaSi?
Temo gocaZe: qveyana sabotaJis reJimSia. yvela doneze mimdinareobs ukompromiso sabotaJi. ar SeiZleba raime moxdes qveyanaSi, rom es arasamTavroboebi
ar ayayandnen. gamodis, rom xelisuflebas
raRacnairad eSinia mniSvnelovani nabijebis gadadgmis, radgan maSinve tydeba aJiotaJi xan arasamTavroboebis mxridan, xan
`nacionalebis~ gundidan. es aris realuri sabotaJi. mexuTe kolona sxva araferi araa. esaa mexuTe kolonis mavnebluri
qmedebebi, rac qveyanas katastrofisken
miaqanebs.
dalagdebian da igive Zalas miviRebT.
amiT araferi Seicvleba. SesakrebTa gadanawilebiT jams ver
Secvli.
_ rogor fiqrobT, ratom uSvebs xalxi erTidaigive Secdomas:
maT vinc 87%-iiT gamsaxurdia airCia, mere 95%-mma SevardnaZes dauWira mxari, igive xalxma misca
xma saakaSvilsac. ra xdeba?
_ saqme isaa, rom Cveni xalxi
meoTxe wreze igive Secdomas uS-
axla igoneben raRacebs da amboben,
vinc rusuli orientaciisaa, isini arian
mexuTe kolonao. TviTon eseni vin arian?
eseni gaxlavan saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg
mimarTuli mtruli Zalebis momxreebi.
axla rom gahyvirian, adamianebis uflebebi irRvevao, cocxebiT da rkinebiT
rom aupatiurebdnen xalxs, maSin sad iyo
romelime maTgani?!
`nacionalebis~ xelSi aris Zalian
didZali fuli da am fuls iyeneben saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg.
da miznebi Cveni xalxisaTvis gaugebaria.
_ 15 noembris aqciis mTavar
Temaze afxazeTzec visaubroT. am
kuTxiT, swori politikis warmoeba, vercerTma xelisuflebam
ver SeZlo.
_ axal xelisuflebasac siRrmiseulad ar aqvs warmodgenili, ra moxda qarTvel-afxazTa
Soris dapirispirebaSi. ver gaugiaT, rom es erovnuli
SuRli iyo, romelsac
Zalian didi xnis istoria aqvs. afxazebi yovelTvis daCagrulad grZnobdnen Tavs, ramac qarTvelebisadmi negatiuri damokidebuleba Camoayaliba. Sedegad, afxazebma miagnes `mtris xats~ _ es
qarTvelebi arian. erovnul SuRls sxvanairad
unda midgoma da ara avtonomiebis SeTavazeba,
rac sruli absurdia. diletanturi Sexedulebebi mianiSnebs, rom qarTuli sazogadoeba da xelisufleba mzad
araa konfliqti moagvaros. am
tragediidan 21 weli gavida da
araferi Secvlila. gaviZaxiT
afxazebi qarTvelebi ar arian,
saidanRac arian Camosulebio,
rac politikuri kretinizmi,
udidesi Secdomaa. afxazeTi saqarTvelos organuli nawilia,
Cveni TanamoZmeni, damoukidebeli
15 noembers apireben mitingis mowyobas. daurigeben, albaT, 30-550 lars
xalxs da Camoiyvanen regionebidan.
gaaTaxsires eri am ubedurebma. gaamaTxovres xalxi da aravis ar awuxebs
is, rom amdeni xalxi fulis gulisTvis
Camova TbilisSi da ara ideis gulisTvis.
yovelive es cud Sedegebamde migviyvans.
Cemi azriT, moqmedebis droa. Cven,
xalxma, sazogadoebam unda viaqtiuroT.
`lazares~ Sekreba mniSvnelovani procesebis dasawyisi unda gaxdes.
saerTo gazeTi
#38 (305), 5.XI, 2014 w.
eTnosia. azrovnebaSi sibnelea,
ramac am tragediamde migviyvana.
situacias arTulebs isic, rom
ruseT-dasavleTis dapirispireba, ruseTs, agresiuli politikisken ubiZgebs.
_ Tqven axseneT, rom `nacionalebis~ mxridan am Temaze aqciis gamarTva, cinizmia. ra SeiZleba mohyves amas?
_ es dacinvaa, radgan swored wina xelisuflebam `uzrunvelyo~ ruseTisTvis am teritoriebis gadacema. dRes, imaze saubari, rom es politikuri
Zala protests acxadebs aneqsiaze, TavisTavad damamcirebelia.
diax, im politikis farglebSi
rasac dRes vxedavT, im agresiuli dapirispirebis fonze, romelic dasavleTsa da ruseTs
Soris aris, kidev ufro agresiul moqmedebebs unda velodoT. `nacmoZraobis~ aqcias erTaderTi mizani aqvs _ esaa aqcia testi, romelmac xelisuflebis zrdasruloba unda Seamowmos. 15 noembers araferi
moxdeba, arc gadatrialeba, arc
gadmotrialeba, magram moisinjeba ramdenad gonivrulad
imoqmedebs xelisufleba, raTa
Semdegmis mimarT kidev ufro
mZlavri ryevebi ganaxorcielon.
bolos da bolos `nacmoZraoba~
provokaciebSi kargad gamocdili politikuri Zalaa. Tu xelisufleba azrze ver mova,
dartymebis ganxorcielebas gaagrZeleben ukve moryeuli xelisuflebis mimarT. axla, am
e.w. en-je-oebis, aseve, `damxmare
inteleqtualuri elitis~ meSveobiT am ryevebis ganxorcieleba midis, rasac televiziebi
xels uwyoben. xelisufleba
amas ver grZnobs. vimeoreb, 15
noembers araferi ar moxdeba,
magram Tu xelisufleba 15 noembers Secdomas dauSvebs, meore, mesame aqcia ganmeordeba, xelisufleba magrad moiryeva, misi Zalovani institutebi SeSinebuli da gverdze Caweuli iqneba, rogorc 2003 wels moxda,
rac e.w. `vardebis revoluciiT~
dagvirgvinda. igive scenari viTardeba, Tavad var procesebis
buli koalicia `qarTuli ocneba~ miviReT.
_ `nacmoZraobas~ albaT,
gaTvlili eqneba isic, rom
afxazeTi Cveni tkivilia da amitom aqciaze, SeiZleba, sakmaod
bevrma adamianma moiyaros Tavi.
nacebi am xalxs xom sakuTar
mxardamWerebad Seracxaven?
_ diax, ra Tqma unda. maT
brwyinvaled ician politikuri
teqnologiebi da is Tu rogor
gaaTamaSon esa Tu is Tema. Tu
adamians eubnebi ruseTis aneqsiis winaaRmdeg vmarTav aqciaso,
wesiT, moqalaqe iq unda gaxvide. magram, roca ici, rom amas
provokatori politikuri Zala
sruliad sxva mizniT akeTebs,
afxazeTi mas sul fexze hkidia,
maSin Tavi unda Seikavo. Darwmunebuli var, miamiti adamianebis garkveuli nawili am ankesze wamoegeba. nebismier SemTxvevaSi, mxolod sakuTari
mxardamWerebiTac rom mividnen
_ 4-5 aTasi kaci miiyvanon, es
soliduri aqciaa. amitom, mTavaria, xelisuflebam Secdoma ar
dauSvas. cxadia, yvela Secdoma
saTanadod gapiardeba, mizanic
esaa.
_ rogor fiqrobT, ra Zalebs awyobT dRes qveyanaSi
areulobis mowyoba?
politikuri TvalsazrisiT,
saqarTvelos xelisuflebam ukve dauSva Secdoma, roca riggareSe vadamdeli arCevnebi ar daniSna, riTac parlamentSi Tanafardobas Secvlida. imitom,
rom `nacmoZraobas~ mxars aravin dauWerda. politikaSi Secdoma Zviri jdeba. SeiZleba saqarTvelos xelisuflebam mdgomareoba xelovnurad gairTula.
Tu riggareSe arCevnebi Catardeba, maSin es Zalian swrafad
unda moxdes, winaarmdeg SemTxvevaSi amaze saubari uazrobaa.
rac Seexeba areulobas, aramgonia amerikelebs an evropas saqarTveloSi
destabilizacia
awyobdes imitom, rom es isedac
rTuli regionia. rTuli mdgomareobaa axlo aRmosavleTSi.
saqarTveloSi situaciis areva
damatebiT problemebs Seqmnis.
SemiZlia giTxraT, aq rom didi
masStabis dapirispireba moxdes,
anu vTqvaT, samoqalaqo omi,
nacionalebi dubaiSi
monawile, vici rogor xdeba
kuluarebSi amis damuSaveba da
Tamamad SemiZlia giTxraT, rom
es asea.
_ anu qveyanaSi `vardebis
revoluciis~ samzadisia? Cven
xom vambobdiT, rom es damnaSave, faSisturi reJimia. reJimis
Sefaseba ar moxda, aman xo mar
mogviyvana dRevandel dRemde?
_ diax. axal xelisuflebas
qarTveli xalxis winaSe uzarmazari codva aqvs Cadenili _
man saZulveli reJimi, ori
wlis Tavze, gaaZliera, fexze
daayena, rasac sakuTari saxeli,
ndoba Seswira. reJimis gasamarTlebis nacvlad fexze dayenebuli `nacmoZraoba~ da daknine-
calsaxad amis gakontroleba
erT politikur Zalas ar SeeZleba, yvela Tavis maqsimalur
mogebaze iTamaSebs, magram aqedan ra gamova, Zneli saTqmelia.
cxadia, rusebi, Tavis Zalian
Zlier TamaSs iTamaSeben. isini,
axlac seriozulad gegmaven saqarTvelos gadaformatirebas
imitom, rom Cven ar veSvebiT
imas, rasac ruseTi arasdros
dasTanxmdeba. safrTxeebi saqarTvelos ruseTisgan elis, im
SemTxvevaSi, Tu igi Tavis ugono, provokaciul politikas
Tavs ar daanebebs. es safrTxe
momakvdinebeli iqneba.
Tamar SveliZe
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yvela is `enjeo~, romelic 2012 wlis
1 oqtombris Semdeg `nacionalebma~ daarses,
SeiaraRebuli bandaa da es bandebi mzad
arian 15 noembers sisxli daRvaron...
Sss-iisa da Tavdacvis saministros yofili
maRalCinosnebi, prokuroprebi, arafrismaqnisi
magram Camowerili Zalismieri SesaZleblobebis
mqone pirebi, `nacionalebTan~ daaxloebi adamianebi, romelTac brali wayenebuli aqvT, magram
giraoTi
arian
ganTavisuflebulebi,
arasamTavrobo organizaciebSi erTiandebian da
aqtiurad emzadebian 15 noembris aqciisTvis.
elementarulad, xom sainteresoa, vin arian
arasamTavrobo organizacia `samarTaldamcavTa dacvis liga~?
damfuZneblebi: levan gvazava (Ss ministris yofili moadgile vano merabiSvilis ministrobis dros), irakli qadagiZe (Tbilisis
policiis mTavari sammarTvelos yofili ufrosi), zaza Waia (Tbilisis policiis mTavari sammarTvelos yofili ufrosis moadgile), irakli
fircxalava (didube-CCuRureTis policiis sammarTvelos yofili ufrosi).
Si), aleqsandre gvazava (didube-CuRureTis policiis me-3 ganyofilebis TanamSromeli, figurirebda buta robaqiZis saqmeSi), giorgi RviniSvili, oTar kaxiZe da a.S policiis yofili
da moqmedi TanamSromlebi, romelTagan zogma
`Tavisufal zonaSi~ gadainacvla. aqedan gamomdinare, TavisTavad, `samarTaldamcavTa
ligasTan~ mWidro TanamSromloba akavSirebs
`pikasos klubs~ da `Tavisufal zonas~.
e.w ocmeTaurebad arian daniSnulebi, vTqvaT,
daviT gogoxia, sod-is yofili TanamSromeli;
irakli Cxvirkia _ sod-is yofili TanamSromeli; avTandil kemularia _ cixis yofili jalaTi axalaias dros da a.S
kriminals vin aaqtiurebs, vin xelmZRvanelobs, iciT? eseni arian e.w brigadirebi, romlebic saakaSvilis dros brigadirobdnen cixeebSi da waxalisebulebi iyvnen, mSvenieri cxovreba hqondaT cixeSi. isini gamovidnen cixidan,
gaTavisufldnen amnistiis wyalobiT da axla am
kuTxiT miiRes davaleba saakaSvilisgan. ra garantias aZleven, iciT? Tqven imoqmedeT, CaidineT danaSauli. mere, ra, dagiWiron, Tqveni ojaxebi iqneba uzrunvelyofili, amasobaSi Cven movalT xelisuflebaSi da gamogiyvanT cixidan.
maTac ra enaRvlebaT, `nasedka-kriminalia,~ cixeSi yofna araferia misTvis, im cxovrebiT gaagrZelebs cxovrebas ra cxovrebiTac cxovrobda. saakaSvilis xelisuflebaSi mosvla gamoricxulia, magram am briyvebs sjeraT, Tan arc
araferi aqvT dasakargi da rogorc manamde, axlac asrulebineben `Sav samuSaos~. TviTon es
kriminalebi ki Tavis droze Seqmnes im polici-
komentarisTvis mivmarTeT yofil politpatimars, `Tavisufali
Taobis~
erT-erT
aqtiur wevrs.
_ Tqven `bandad~
moixsenieT e.w `enjeoebi~, albaT, yvelas ar
gulisxmobT...
_ yvela is `enjeo~,
romelic 2012 wlis 1
oqtombris Semdeg gamoiCeka `nacionalebisgan~, bandaa da Tan SeiaraRebuli. isini TavianT bandaSi aerTianeben yofil ministrebs, ministris moadgileebs, ubnis
aqtiur koordinatorebs, policiis ufrosebs,
policiis rigiT TanamSromlebs, Tavdacvis saministros yofil TanamSromlebs, departamentis
direqtorebs, gamgeblebs da a. S _ yvelas ra
CamoTvlis. am adamianebis miTiTebebiT, romlebic
rodesac sxvadasxva dros xelmZRvanelobdnen
sxvadasxva uwyebebs, xdeboda rogorc adamianebis wameba, ise maTTvis qonebis CamorTmevebi,
devnebi, gatacebebi _ eseni iyvnen saakaSvilis
xelisuflebis SeuzRudavi uflebebis kriminalebi, romlebmac ucbad gadmoinacvles arasamTavrobo organizaciebSi. maT aqvT erTaderTi
daniSnuleba, qveyanaSi moawyon areuloba, Seqmnan kriminaluri foni, mSvidobiani moqalaqeebi
amoagdon cxovrebis mSvidi ritmidan, gazardon
ukmayofileba mosaxleobaSi, SeimuSaon sabotaJis mowyobis gzebi.
Tqven rogor ggoniaT, ra saerTo mizniT iqnebian gaerTianebuli konkretul arasamTavrobo
organizaciaSi igive, SoTa utiaSvili, gigi kalandaZe, levan mxeiZe (yofili gamgebeli), zaza
baqraZe (Tavdacvis saministros TanamSromeli),
giorgi oniani, guram donaZe, sergi kapanaZe (sagareo saqmeTa saministros regionuli TanamSromlobis departamentis direqtoris yofili
moadgile), daviT iaSvili (vake-saburTalos policiis sammarTvelos yofili udrosi, romlic
figurirebda buta robaqiZis mkvlelobis saqme-
elebma, sod-is da kud-is xelmZRvanelebma, romlebmac axla Sirmad `enjeoebi~ aifares.
calke jgufebi hyavT, romlebic
sazogadoebaSi ukmayofilebis gaRvivebis kuTxiT muSaoben, e.w `sabotaJinikebis~ jgufebi hyavT Seqmnili absoluturad yvela uwyebaSi, yvela saxelmwifo
struqturaSi. erTxans rom xma gavarda, komunalur gadasaxadebze fasebma unda aiwioso da
xalxi gadairia, ra iyo es? _ maia nadiraZe
uziT iq da gaagdebines xma.
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_ gasagebia, rom finansdebian, magram ase advilia `qeSis~ fulis Semotana?
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Cans, rogor da vis Semoaqvs `qeSi~ fuli, vin
ayvirdeba, roca TavianTi xalxi hyavT yvelgan!
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Tumca aqac rom gauwydeT romelime rgoli, aqac
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da varT ase, nervebis wyvetaSi...
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da TavianTi mokle WkuiTa da SurisZiebiT savse guliT xelisuflebis miTviseba aqvT gamiznuli. igive teqnologiebiT apireben imis gameorebas, rac gaakeTes, magram maSin patara raRac
mainc akavebdaT garedan, amjerad sisxlze ulaparakod wamsvlelebi arian _ briyvebi arian!
maTi gaTvliT, 50 000 adamianis Sekrebas
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daviT qavTaria
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`rusTavi-2~-is mier friad damaintrigeblad daanonsebulma gadacema `gansxvavebulma aqcentebma~,
romelic eqspremier zurab Jvanias
gardacvalebas exeboda, sazogadoebaSi araerTgvarovani reaqcia gamoiwvia, eqskluziuri da sensaciuri
informaciebis momlodine mayurebels `imedebi~ gaucruvda, radgan
axali da `gansxvavebuli~ veraferi
movismineT. Tavad gadacemis wamyvans eka kvesitaZes, televiziis
xelmZRvanelobas da nacionalebs
risi Tqma surdaT sazogadoebisTvis ra mogaxsenoT, magram faqtobrivad daadastures, rom zurab
Jvanias marTlac hqonda Tavis areSi fizikuri dazianebebi. Jvanias
megobarma, eqsparlamentarma xaTuna
xoferiam, xsenebuli gadacema eqspremieris ojaxisa da prokuraturis daSantaJebis morig mcdelobad aRiqva, romelic eqspert, amJamad patimrobaSi myof levan CaCuas mxardaWeras da misi gadarCenisTvis brZolis demonstrirebasac emsaxureboda. safuZvels moklebuli ar aris Cveni kolegebis
mier gaJRerebuli versiac, rom es
yvelaferi nacionalebma Tavis
dazRvevis mizniT gaakeTes. gardacvlili eqspremieris Zma, parlamentari giorgi Jvania sagazeTo interviuebSi acxadebda, rom zurab
Jvanias mkvlelobis gamoZiebis saqmeSi mimdinare wlis miwuruls
mniSvnelovani gardatexa moxdeboda. etyoba saqmis gamoZieba marTlac daskvniT etapzea da male
acxadebs, rom man seifSi datova
zurab Jvanias saqmis mniSvnelovani
masala, SemTxvevis adgilis daTvalierebis amsaxveli firi da sxva
sagamoZiebo procedurebis eleqtronuli versiebi, orive cxedris
samedicino eqspertizis daskvnebi
da a.S. yvela sagamoZiebo proceduras prokurorebi, Sesabamisi uflebamosili pirebi, maT Soris
ojaxis wevrebi da megobrebi eswrebodnen. es iyo mxolod da mxolod Jvanias saqmis masalebi, romelic iyo mniSvnelovani da imito-
Zalze mniSvnelovan da skandalur
informaciebs SevityobT. mogexsenebaT, Tavdacvis saukeTeso saSualeba Tavdasxmaa da nacionalebmac
saqmeSi `mZime artileria~, anu
`rusTavi-2~ CarTes Tavisi `gansxvavebuli aqcentebiT~, Tumca ramdenad gamouvidaT Canafiqri, es
sxva sakiTxia. am mosazrebebs Cvenc
veTanxmebiT, magram migvaCnia, rom
gadacemis iniciatorTa mTavari samizne mainc axali mTavroba, kerZod irakli RaribaSvili iyo.
1 noembris `aqcentebis~ detaluri ganxilva Sors wagviyvans,
amitom mxolod ramdenime sagulisxmo garemoebaze SevCerdebiT.
mimdinare wlis martSi internetsivrceSi vinme hakim faSas saxeliT atvirTulma zurab Jvaniasa
da raul usupovis cxedrebis amsaxveli fotoebis kolaJma marTlac didi aJiotaJi gamoiwvia sazogadoebaSi. saqarTvelos mTavarma prokuraturam fotoebis atvirTvasTan kavSiri uaryo da aRniSna,
rom am masalebis gasajaroeba gamoZieba xels uSlis. gadacemis wamyvanis TqmiT, prokuraturas iqve
uRiarebia, rom 2012 wlis arCevnebis Semdgom Jvaniasa da usupovis
gardacvalebasTan dakavSirebuli
foto da video masala yofili
mTavari prokuroris murTaz zodelavas samuSao kabinetis seifSi
aRmoaCines. eqsprokurori zodelava Tavis satelevizio komentarSi
mac inaxeboda Cems seifSi, yvelaze
dacul sivrceSi da is iuTubze ar
unda moxvedriliyoo. kvesitaZe
wuxs, Tu am masalis internetSi
ganTavseba gamoZiebis process
xels uSlis, ratom ar gamoiZies
vin aris hakim faSa da rogor aRmoCnda mis xelSi sazogadoebisTvis aqamde ucnobi foto masala,
romelic prokuraturis gancxadebiT, avTenturiao. aqvea zodelavas
komentaric, `adastureben imas,
rom ss-is masalebSi arsebuli
mtkicebulebebi viRacam aiRo, viRacam ra, prokuraturas miuwvdeba
xom xeli. Tu avTenturia, e.i. prokuraturam aiRo, viRac uflebamosilma pirma, waiRo da iuTubze ganaTavsa. ss-is masalebi aris mxolod ss-is saqmeSi, misi gaxmaureba, gasajaroeba aris danaSauli~.
srulad veTanxmebi baton zodelavas im nawilSi, rom Ziebis mimdinareobisas masalebis gasajaroeba
danaSaulia, magram saqme isaa, vin
gaaxmaura, isev nacionalebma, an
maTTan daaxloebulma pirebma xom
ara? mTeli saqarTvelo imas laparakobda, rom nacionalebma maT mier mopovebuli foto da video masalis mxolod nawili da isic aslebi datoves, danarCeni ki saguldagulod gadamales da saWiroebisamebr mavanTa komprometirebisTvis gamoiyenebdnen. Tu marTlac
prokuraturidan an sxva samarTaldamcavi struqturidan gavida es
zurab Jvanias saqmesTan
dakavSirebuli morigi sicrue,
gansxvavebuli aqcentiT
masala, maSin marTali yofila is
xmebi, rom Tundac es uwyebebi nacionalebiTa da maTi mxardamWerebiT aris gaZeZgili, albaT dadga
dro, rom xelisufleba amaze seriozulad dafiqrdes da masobrivi `wmenda~ Caataros yvela uwyebaSi. `Canergilebi~ neli moqmedebis
naRmia, romelic rodis afeTqdeba
aravin icis. ise zodelavam bolomde mainc ar Tqva, iyo Tu ara gavrcelebuli fotoebi im masalebidan, romlebsac saguldagulod
inaxavda seifSi, samagierod es `misia~ gadacemis wamyvanma itvirTa.
yvelaferTan erTad eka kvesitaZem sicrueSic `amxila~ premierministri irakli RaribaSvili, hakim faSas mier internetiT gavrcelebulma fotoebma rogor SeZra
RaribaSvili, roca zodelavas seifSi aRmoCenili videomasalis
daTvaliereba da Jvanias Tavis qalaze aRmoCenili dazianebebis fotosuraTebis saxiT amoReba Sss-s
saeqsperto-kriminalistikur sammarTvelos Sesabamis samsaxurSi
moxda, im dros ki Ss ministri RaribaSvili iyo. saqmis rezonansulobidan gamomdinare, gamoricxulia ministri am saqmiT ar dainteresebuliyoo.
Qalbatoni kvesitaZe ufro
Sors wavida da premier-ministrs
ufro `seriozul~ saqmeSic `amxila~, Turme premier-ministris `Soki~ rom gaemarTlebina, prokuraturas misi gancxadebidan or dReSi sasamarTlo-samedicino eqspertizis erovnuli biuros ganyofilebis ufrosi levan CaCua daukavebia. mas bralad dasdes, eqspertizis Catarebis mizniT Jvaniasa da
usupovis cxedrebis gamokvlevisas
gulgriloba gamoiCina da srulyofilad ar aRwera gvamebze arsebuli sicocxlis droindeli dazianebebi, Tumca, rogorc mogvianebiT
gairkva, CaCuas dakavebas mxolod
RaribaSvilis gancxadeba edo safuZvlad, romlis mixedviTac TiTqos gavrcelebul fotoebSi SeuiaraRebeli TvaliTac SeiZleba imis
danaxva, rom Jvanias Tavis qalaze
sicocxlis droindeli dazianebebi
aReniSnebao. am dros iqvea premierministris gancxadeba, rom zurab
Jvanias Tavis areSi aReniSneba SeuiaraRebeli TvalisTvisac cxadi
seriozuli dazianebebi da rogorc
informacia momawodes, es sicocxlisdroindeli dazianebebiao. ris
safuZvelze gaakeTa RaribaSvilma
es daskvna dRemde pasuxgaucemelia,
ar arsebobs arcerTi alternatiuli eqspertuli daskvna, romelic
eqspert CaCuas gulgrilobas an
daskvnis siyalbes daamtkibdao,
brZanebs qalbatoni kvesitaZe. sad
aris aq premieris daskvna? gasagebia, rom udanaSaulo adamiani, miT
umetes mZime avadmyofi cixeSi ar
unda ijdes. sasamarTlo ganxilvis
dasrulebamde vinmes damnaSaveobasa
da udanaSaulobaze saubris uflebas Tavs namdvilad ver mivcem da
arc imis moyoliT SegawyenT Tavs,
razec eqspertizebTan dakavSirebiT saubrobda gadacemis wamyvani,
isic gasagebia, rom fotoebis mixedviT kategoriuli daskvnis gakeTeba SeuZlebelia. Tuki imaze
vTanxmdebiT, rom internetSi gavrcelebuli fotoebi da zodelavas
seifidan amoRebuli videomasalidan gakeTebuli fotoebi identuria, e.i. eqspremieris cxedars marTlac aReniSneboda fizikuri dazianebebis kvali, rac eqspertizis
daskvnaSi asaxuli ar yofila. imas
xom veravin ityvis, samedicino eqspertizis Semdeg miayenes cxedars
dazianebao. gamoZiebis dasrulebamde rom srul simarTles ver SevityobT, calsaxaa, Ziebis interesebidan gamomdinare, saqmis detalebze veravin isaubrebs, amitomac
ar aris gasakviri samedicino eqspertebis xarZeiSvilisa da erisTavis gancxadeba, rom gamoZiebis dasrulebamde komentars ar gaakeTeben.
levan CaCuas saqmis sasamarTlo ganxilvaze mTavarma prokuraturam mosamarTles hakim faSas mier gavrcelebuli videomasalis
mtkicebulebad daSveba sTxova, razec mosamarTlem Tanxmoba ganacxada, Tumca amave dros ar daakmayofila dacvis Suamdgomloba da gamoZiebis federaluri biuros mier
zurab Jvanias gardacvalebasTan
dakavSirebiT momzadebuli daskvna
saqmeze mtkicebulebad ar miiRoo.
qalbatono kvesitaZev, rodemde unda ayaroT xalxs TvalSi nacari,
ra SuaSia hakim faSas fotoebi,
aki TviTonve dagvimtkiceT Tqvens
mierve partizanulad mopovebuli
oficialuri dokumentisa da eqs-
melsac axali xelisuflebac asaidumloebs. kvesitaZem mowmed prezidentyofilic moiyvana, romlis
gancxadebiTac Turme Jvanias ojaxi am daskvnas icnobs. `Cven es daskvna gasagebi mizezebis gamo ar gamovaqveyneT, imitom, rom saqme exeba adamianis bevr Zalian Rrma da
iseT detals da namdvilad CemTvis
zurabis saxeli aris wmindaTa
wminda. Tu vinmesTvis es ar aris
xelSeuxebeli, maT Soris vinme
ojaxis wevrisTvis, es maT sindisze iyos~, Cveuli abdaubdaTi dagvamunaTa saakaSvilma. xsenebuli
daskvna qalbaton kvesitaZesac moupovebia, magram delikaturobidan
gamomdinare ar gavasajaroebTo. Tu
maT mierve dadgmuli binZuri scenis mixedviT Caatarebines amerikel
eqspertebs kvleva nacionalebma,
maSin gasagebia maTi muqara daskvnis gasajaroebis Sesaxeb.
am gadacemis naxvis Semdeg legitimuri kiTxvebi mec gamiCnda,
sad iyvnen `nacionalebi~ cxra
wlis ganmavlobaSi, ratom ar gamoiZies es saqme bolomde. Tu gamoZiebulia da daskvnac miRebuli,
rom zurab Jvania da raul usupovi ubedur SemTxvevas emsxverplnen, ratom ar iyo es saqme daxuruli. profesionali iuristebis
gancxadebiT, saqme imitom ar daxures, rom is Semdgom arqivs unda
gadascemoda da nebismier msurvels
SeeZlo misi gacnoba, rac nacreJims ar awyobda. saRad moazrovne
adamiani maSinve SeniSnavda masSi
arsebul xarvezebs. `saerTo gazeTSi~ aRniSnul saqmesTan dakavSirebiT ramdenjerme daibeWda statia, romelic profesionali samarTaldamcavebis mier mowodebuli informaciebis safuZvelze momzadda. rodesac Jvanias gardacvalebis Sesaxeb gaxda cnobili, maT
maSinve icodnen, rom premier-ministri politikaSi mis mierve moyva-
pertis meSveobiT, orive videomasala da fotoebi identuri iyo.
prokuraturam samsaxurebriv gulgrilobaSi brali dasdo Jvanias
dacvis wevrebs koba xarSilaZesa
da mixeil ZaZamias, isinic winaswar
patimrobaSi imyofebian da Tavs
udanaSaulod miiCneven. xarSilaZis
advokatis
gancxadebiT,
maTi
moTxovnaa saqme nafic msajulTa
sasamarTlom ganixilos, romelic
imis garantia iqneba, rom sazogadoebam simarTle gaigos, romelic
sakmaod mZime mosasmenic ki SeiZleba aRmoCndeso. Turme simarTle,
romlis gamJRavnebasac advokatebi
apireben gfb-is daskvnis is nawilia, romelzec wina xelisufleba
Segnebulad ar saubrobda da ro-
nilma xalxma imsxverpla. sando da
kompetenturma wyaros gancxadebiT, Sss-Si maSinve hqondaT informacia, rom `Savnabadis~ rezidenciaSi moxda konfliqti zurab Jvaniasa da mixeil saakaSvils Soris,
ra drosac am ukanasknelma mZime
saferfle esrola premiers, romelic mas TavSi moxvda da mokla.
sxvaTa Soris,Aam tragikul SemTxvevamdec yofila maT Soris e.w.
razborkebi. saakaSvilis daWeras
vin gabedavda, arc simarTlis gamomzeureba undodaT, amitomac dadges es speqtakli da premieris
mkvleloba ubedur SemTxvevad `SemogvasaRes~.
manana suxiSvili
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`saerTo gazeTis~ damateba
#38, noemberi, 2014 w.
_ sad aris xalxi? _ ikiTxa
gadacema `reaqciaSi~ stumrad
miwveulma premier-mministrma.
inga grigoliam, romelmac
irakli RaribaSvils carieli
auditoria daaxvedra, Tavi imarTla _ remonti gvaqvs, batono
irakli... axla gvapatieT da momavalSi sul xalxiT gadaWedil
darbazs dagaxvedrebTo.
saqarTvelos mravlismnaxvel
da mraval ubedurebagamovlili
moqalaqeebis did umravlesobas
swored is eamayeba, rom 32
wlis iseTi premieri hyavs, romelsac endoba da romlisac
sjera; axalgazrda kaci, romelic, faqtobrivad, gaavebuli
afTrebiviT balanaSlili adamianebis alyaSia moxvedrili da
mainc ar epueba, piriqiT, win miiwevs im erTaderTi miznis Sesasruleblad, rac daisaxa _ saqarTvelosa da misi moqalaqeebis usafrTxoeba da Rirseulad
yofna.
SeiZleba Zalian didi survili hqonda viRacebs, rom e.w
`prezidentis vetos~ da e.w
`mosmenebis gasaRebs~ gamohkideboda premieri, magram CauvardaT
kovzi nacarSi, mokled da konkretulad moWra _ `mimaCnia, rom
Zalian gadaWarbebuli iyo is
xmauri da aJiotaJi rac mohyva
e.w `mosmenebis Taobaze kanons.~
lamazad mianiSna gadacemis wamyvans saTqmeli, magram vin moeSva? hoda, premiermac aRar daaxana: _ `me var pirdapiri adamiani. yovelTvis mirCevnia vTqva
Cemi saTqmeli, Tundac is iyos
zedmeti, gadaWarbebuli, gazviadebuli, mcdari (ar maqvs pretenzia rom Seumcdari var) _ me
ase CavTvale, rom es iyo xelovnurad marTuli procesi. Amas
mohyva logikuri Sedegi, vgulisxmob imas, rom `rusTavi-2is~ eTerSi gamoaqveynes absoluturad gaugebari Canawerebi, rac
Zalian hgavda xelovnurs. me Zalian ar miyvars xelovnuroba
da Zalian didi protesti miCndeba roca vxedav rom usamarTloba da xelovnurobaa. me, SeiZleba, vcdebi, magram mosaxleobas aqvs imis unari, rom mixvdes, vin aris mtyuani, vin _ marTali~.
bunebrivia `vetos~ e.w `mosmenebis Tema~ mieba im konteqstSi, rom TiTqos RaribaSvils
(mis mTavrobasa da xelisuflebas) ar surs raRac, arada, swo-
xelisufleba, mTavroba, magram
ar viciT ra moxdeba xval da
zeg. im xval da zeg Tu mova saakaSvilis msgavsi (Teoriulad
vambob, Tu qarTveli xalxi dauSvebs da moiyvans 10-20 wlis
Semdeg), ra Tqma unda, is kvlav
Caidens gadacdomas. Cven unda
SevqmnaT iseTi maqsimaluri sistema, romelic daicavs moqalaqeebs, magram meore mxriv, Cven
ar unda SevqmnaT iseTi sistema,
romelic daarRvevs moqalaqeebis uflebas da usafrTxoebas,
yvelaze mTavar organos.
... me pirdapir getyviT _ sami kompania, romelic aris ZiriTadi mobiluri operatori, amboben, rom maT ar undaT aRniSnuli `gasaRebis~ floba; meore
_ me aravis vayeneb Suracxyo-
uls, saxelmwifo saidumlos
gamJRavneba, romelic aris pirdapir sisxlis samarTlis danaSauli, udidesi danaSaulia _
minda amaze yvela kargad dafiqrdes! ar SeiZleba, rom saxelmwifo saidumloebasTan pirdapiri wvdomis saSualeba gadasce
ucxo qveynebs!
grigolia CaeZia: es yvelaferi kargia, magram ratom
mixvedi prezidentTan da prezidentis im sasaxleSi, romelic
ar giyvarTo?
`Senoba mec momwons, magram
momwons Tu ar momwons, Cems mowonebaze ar aris saqme, bunebrivia, an miyvars Tu ar miyvars _
ratom unda miyvardes? es is sasaxlea, romelic saakaSvilma
aaSena xalxis fuliT, naxevar
cvlilebebis 2 weli da
daskvna: irakli RaribaSvili,
rogorc maRalkvalificiuri
politikosi, Sedga!
saqarTvelos premier-ministri
gadacema `reaqciaSi~ da
gawbilebuli inga grigolia
red RaribaSvili iyo erT-erTi
mTavari iniciatori, vinc absoluturad gaasajaroa faruli
Canawerebis procesi da aCvena
mosaxleobas rasTan hqonda saqme cxra wlis manZilze; igive
RaribaSvili iyo mTavari iniciatori, romelmac gaanadgura
sxvaTa piradi cxovrebis amsaxveli aTasobiT ukanonod mopovebuli video da audio faili da
xelisuflebis saxeliT Tqva,
rom amiT erTxel da samudamod
dasrulda amgvari ukanonoba.
cxra wlis ganmavlobaSi ra
katastrofasac taSs ukravdnen
da vinc ukravda, dRes ametyvelda didi demokratis saxeliT da
uares katastrofas iTxovs, Tan
ise, TiTqos ver xvdebodes ras
iTxovs, hgonia xalxs TvalSi
nacars ayris. Seayridnen kidec,
magram premier RaribaSvils,
romelic maqsimalurad saRad
azrovnebs da maT qvebudnobas
erTi Tvalis SevlebiT naTlad
xedavs, ra mouxerxon? elementaruli kiTxvaa, Tu es yvelaferi ase rom unda momxdariyo
windawin gamiznuli ar iyo, amdenxans ratom ver SeZles am sakiTxze momuSave e.w muSa jgufebma regulaciebis mofiqreba,
TiToeul maTgans xom zemaRali
ambiciebi aqvs yvela saqmeSi kompetenturobaze?
kiTxva daisva, ris imedze
unda viyoT, keTilsindisieri
Sss-s imedzeo? igive kiTxva aqvs
premiersac da pasuxsac iZleva:
_ `ratom unda vendoT? dRes,
SeiZleba keTilsindisieri aris
fas, magram vinaidan vici safrTxeebi da vici specsamsaxurebis
muSaobis zogadi specifika, rom
avuxsnaT moqalaqeebs, arsebobs
martivi saSualebebi, rom moxdes SemoRweva am kompaniebSic.
Tu maT eqnebaT es `gasaRebi~ da
kontroli eqnebaT Cveni moqalaqeebis usafrTxoebaze da komunikaciebze, ra Tqma unda, riskis
Semcvelia. verc erT saxelmwifs ver damisaxelebT, sadac
ucxouri kompaniebi floben am
`gasaRebs~. Tu saxelmwifo
ucxo qveynebis ucxour kompaniebs am saSualebas kontrolis
gareSe gadascems da es yvelaferi xelmisawvdomi iqneba maTTvis, es aris pirdapiri danaSauli, saxelmwifo Caidens danaSa-
miliardze meti gadaixada. ra
Tqma unda, mqonda da maqvs protesti am Senobis mimarT, radgan
mimaCnia, rom ar aris SesabamisobaSi Cvens realobasTan _ es
Cemi moqalaqeobrivi poziciaa.
rac Seexeba Cems misvlas
prezidentTan _ kidev erTxel
ganvmartav, rom me mzad var, nebismier dros, nebismier formatSi, nebismier adgilze mivide ara
mxolod saqarTveloSi, aramed
nebismier adgilas, roca saqme
exeba Cemi qveynis usafrTxoebas,
Cemi qveynis suverenitets da a.S
_ araferi gansakuTrebuli ar
yofila, Cven sxvanairad moqcevis
ufleba arc gvaqvs.
10 gv.
Zvirfaso megobrebo, SemogvierTdiT gazeT `patriotis~ megobarTa klubSi.
informaciisTvis dagvikavSirdiT:
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redaqciis misamarTi: Tbilisi, d.aRmaSeneblis gamz., 164, II sarT.
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#38, 5 noemberi, 2014 w.
9 gv.
me piraduli araferi maqvs
prezident margvelaSvilis mimarT, arc arasdros mqonia da
arc meqneba _ piradulze arasdros ar unda daviyvanoT Cveni
politika. Cven saubari gvaqvs
Cveni qveynis marTvaze, mis ganviTarebaze da winsvlaze, Cveni
moqlaqeebis dacvaze, maT winsvlasa da usafrTxoebaze, amdenad,
roca saubaria msgavsi tipis
formatebze, ra Tqma unda, mzad
var yovelTvis miviRo monawileoba. aseve unda iyos mzad prezidenti margvelaSvili, konsultaciebs gadiodes mTavrobasTan,
parlamentTan. magaliTad, rac
iyo (`gasaRebTan~ dakavSirebiT
_ `s.g~), me ase ar moviqceodi _
Zalian martivi iyo Tundac SeTavazeba parlamentisTvis, xom
ar sjobs, dekembrisTvis gadavwioT vadao. darwmunebuli var,
parlamenti amas gaiziarebda, Tu
ar gaiziarebda, maSin, dausabuTebda, miTumetes, rom prezidents hqonda pirdapiri komunikacia saparlamento warmomadgenlobasTan. es misi gadasawyvetia
iyo da me arasdros Caverevi amaSi!~ _ saTqmeli daufaravad Tqva
premierma.
grigoliam sityva Seapara
premiers, xalxi ukmayofiloa,
mTavroba
dapirebebs
ar
asrulebso.
irakli RaribaSvili:
_ `damisaxeleT erTi danapirebi,
romelic Cven ar SevasruleT.
Cven Zalian mZime 2 weli gaviareT. Cvens mier gakeTebuli ToToeuli saqme, reforma Tu Cvens
mier daxarjuli TiToeuli lari, mimarTuli iyo iqiTken, rom
saxelmwifos safuZveli gaZlierdes.
me minda xalxs ganmumarto
_ erTia, ra Cans, ra realobaa
warmoCenili televiziebSi da
meorea realoba, ra xdeba realurad. pirveli weli iyo Zalian rTuli weli, e.w kohabitaciis periodi, ase vTqvaT,
avadsaxsenebeli periodi. yvelafris keTeba gviwevda paralelur reJimSi, iqneboda es:
ganviTareba, proeqtebi Tu reformebi, maSin, rodesac yofili prezidenti da misi gundi
yoveldRiur reJimSi sabotaJs
eweoda, faqtobrivad, partizanul brZolas awarmoebda Cveni
xelisuflebisa da xalxis winaaRmdeg. miuxedavad am yvelafrisa, Cveni miRwevebi aris
STambeWdavi. me detaluri angariSi Cavabare xalxs, movutane
konkretuli cifrebi da faqtebi _ gamovides nebismieri oponenti da miTxras romelSi ar
meTanxmeba. me mzad var SekiTxvebi miviRo sazogadoebisgan,
miviRo Jurnalistebisgan, Tu
es kiTxva maTgan momdinareobs
da ara, Cveni, ase vTqvaT, demagogi da sicruis matarebeli
opoziciisgan. me aRar msurs am
adamianebs rame vupasuxo, vgulisxmob `nacionalur moZraobas~, romelic 24 saaTis ganmavlobaSi mosaxleobas arwmunebs,
rom yvelaferi, rac dRes keTdeba, ar keTdeba, an aris cudi
da a.S. xolo rac keTdeboda
maT dros, iyo saswauli. Cven
Zalian kargad gvesmis, rom es
aris mizanmimarTuli propaganda, rom rac gakeTda, mosaxleobamde ar midis _ amaze aravin
ar saubrobs.
cvlilebebis 2 weli da daskvna:
irkali RaribaSvili, rogorc
maRalkvalificiuri politikosi, Sedga!
2 781 000 adamiani davazRvieT – dRes moqalaqes aRar eSinia Tu misi ojaxis wevri gaxdeba cudad, is wava da saxelmwifo upatronebs mas _ 1 mlrd
lariT gavzardeT jandacvis biujeti;
am wlis bolomde 180 axali
saswrafo daxmarebis manqana daurigdeba yvela regions, yvela
raions;
150 laramde gavzardeT pensiebi (148 lari aris saarsebo
minimum da ara 155 lari, araswori informacia gaqvT) da gavaormageT socialuri daxmareba;
iq, sadac dabalia Sobadoba,
mTaSi _ bavSvSvze davuniSneT
200 lari TveSi, barSi _ 150
lari;
1065 skolis 43 000 moswavles vemsaxurebiT ufaso saskolo transportiT;
1000-mde skolas CavutareT
reabilitacia-remonti;
21 fakulteti gavxadeT ufaso, vafinansebT 12 000 students; Cemi iniciativiT sazRvargareT, saukeTeso universitetebSi daviwyeT saukeTeso
studentebis gaSveba;
vin warmoidgenda saakaSvilis xelisuflebis dros patimrebis mkurnalobas, 1000 patimars vumkurnaleT `c~ hepatitze, tuberkuliozsa da a.S Cven
vxarjavT yovelwliurad 6 mln
lars. romel mkurnalobaze iyo
saubari, rodesac patimrebs
klavdnen wamebiT, gaupatiurebiT da aTasi saSinelebiT;
devnilebs 14 mln-iT gavuwieT daxmareba, 10 500 devnils
miveciT sacxovrebeli, 1 larad
davukanoneT
4000
ojaxs
sacxovrebeli farTobi da pirad
sakuTrebaSi gadaveciT;
Cven 24-saaTiani siyalbiTa
da piariT rom ar varT dakavebuli, imas ar niSnavs, rom Cven
ar vmuSaobT. Cveni oponentebi
da samwuxarod da saubedurod,
media-saSualebebic, mosaxleobaSi Tesaven da anviTareben am mcadar azrs yoveldRiurad da
sityvebi aqvT SerCeuli _ `ususurad~. marTlac visze aqvT salaparako im adamianebs, romelTa xelisuflebis maRalCinosnebi, ministrebi, arian kriminalebi pirdapiri mniSvnelobiT da
adamiani, romelic cxra weli
iyo prezidenti, gaurbis SekiTxvebs. rogor SeiZleba, is
adamianebi oponentebad aRviqva
da oponentebi vuwodo, romlebic 24 saaTi cdiloben maTi
kriminaluri saqmeebi, romlebzec kublaSvilis sasamarTlom
gamoitana ganaCeni, amtkiceben,
rom es aris politikuri devna
an motivirebuli saqmeebi.~
Tu vinmes is ar ukvirs, ratom moxda, rom ori wlis ganmavlobaSi axali xelisuflebis
mier gakeTebuli amdeni saqme mosaxleobamde ver mivida, is ratomRa unda ukvirdes, rom saqarTvelos saparlamento delegaciam evrosabWoSi rezoluciis
teqstis miReba ver SeZlo? viTom mtkivneul adgilze Cauniskarta Jurnalistma premiers.
irakli RaribaSvili: _ `zogadad, am rezoluciiT
spekulireba, manipulireba da sazogadoebis
SecdomaSi
Seyvana
arasworia. es rezolucia aris _ avtorebi
vinc arian, momxseneblebi saqarTvelos Sesaxeb, isini amboben,
rom ar eTanxmebian rezolucias. maT Tqves,
rom es aris `nacionaluri moZraobis~ partizanuli moZraobis~
rezolucia. `nacionaluri moZraoba~ aris
Cveulebrivi mavnebluri organizacia, maT
ukve aRaranairi saxeli
aRar aqvT qveynis SigniT da rasac axerxeben
jer kidev, (amasac male daasruleben _ imedi maqvs) es aris mavnebloba sakuTari qveynis da sakuTari xalxis winaaRmdeg, anu realurad, agrZeleben im
saqmes, rasac akeTebdnen wlebis ganmavlobaSi.~
marTalia premieri,
roca mouwodebs yvelas, Jurnalisti iqneba, politikosi, arasamTavrobo seqtoris
warmomadgneli
Tu
sxva, ar unda SeviyvanoT SecdomaSi da ar
unda gavuCinoT cru
molodinebi adamianebs,
radgan Cveni qveynis biujetis farglebSi da
Cveni ekonomikis qveyana, 2 milion adamians
ver gaamdidrebs verc
or weliwadSi da verc
orjer or weliwadSi, es aris miuRweveli
da absurdi, magram dezinformaciis manqana
muSaobs da mizanmimarTulad anviTareben mosaxleobaSi nihilizmis
mTesvel maxinj informaciebs.
_ sad aris ivaniSvilis daanonsebuli 60 sawarmo? _
ikiTxa grigoliam.
irakli RaribaSvili:
_ sruli pasuxismgeblobiT geubnebiT, 89 axali sawarmo Seiqmna ori wlis ganmavlobaSi Cveni TanadafinansebiT. me mivmarTav
media-saSualebebs, oponentebs,
Cvens winaaRmdeg kritikulad
ganwyobilebs, yvelas, wavidnen
da naxon.~
inga grigolia: _ SesaZlebelia Tu ara, koalicia daiSalos?
irakli RaribaSvili: _
`koalicia Sedgeba 6 partiisgan.
Cven gvaqvs SeTanxmeba, rom 2016
wlamde koalicia iqneboda Sekruli da erTad miviyvandiT
dawyebul process. me saerTod
ar vuyureb ase, koalicia daiSleba Tu ar daiSleba, me vuyureb
da vfiqrob im gamowvevebze, rac
aris qveyanaSi, saSinao Tu sagareo politika. col-qmari SeiZleba gaiyaros, wlebis SeCveuli
da koaliciis wevrebs Soris Tu
gaugebroba moxda, odesRac koaliciis wevrma datova koalicia,
amaSi problemas ver vxedav.~
premierma bolos 15 noembers
`nacionalebis~
daanonsebul
aqciazec ilaparaka:
`me minda Sevaxseno yvelas,
ar wamoegon saakaSvilis mier dagegmil
binZur provokacias
saxelmwifosa da Cveni mosaxleobis winaaRmdeg, radgan saxelmwifo iqneba daundobeli aseTi boroti
ganzraxvis winaaRmdeg.~
* * *
Zneli saTqmelia,
premierisTvis carieli darbazis daxvedreba inga grigolias
Jurnalisturi fandi
iyo Tu `reaqciis~
darbazSi marTla saremonto samuSaoebi
mimdinareobda (sami
dRis Semdeg reaqciis
darbazi isev xalxiT
iyo savse...), Tumca,
ase iyo Tu ise, faqti
erTia, wamyvanma stumari `xalxis gareSe~
datova da erTi-erTze scada stumris
`gawurva~, Tumca Tavisi omaxianobiT da
`CamWreli kiTxvebiT~
ganTqmul grigolias
amjerad araferi gamouvida _ stumari
imdenad momzadebuli
da kompetenturi aRmoCnda yvela sakiTxSi da yvela kiTxvaze
imdenad srulyofil
da amomwurav pasuxebs iZleoda, rom gadacemis bolos wamyvani aSkarad dabneuli da cotaTi daTrgunuli Canda.
SeiZleba
vinmes
gadaWarbebulad moeCvenos es Sefaseba,
magram `reaqciis~ am
gadacemiT kidev erTxel
dadasturda,
rom irakli RaribaSvili, am ori wlis
ganmavlobaSi,
rogorc maRali kvalifikaciis politikosi,
namdvilad Sedga!
`saerTo
gazeTi~
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#38, 5 noemberi, 2014 w.
pativcemulo batono elCo,
mister norland!
raki Tqveni qveyana (amerikis
SeerTebuli Statebi) warmarTavs
dRes msoflio politikas da saqarTvelos bedis gadawyvetaSic
did rols TamaSobs, amitom
Tqven mogmarTavT am weriliT;
ratomRac migvaCnia da gveCveneba,
rom Tqven SegiZliaT mosmena da
imis gageba, rac mavanTaTvis xSirad gaugebari rCeba... amdenad,
vfiqrobT, rom Tqven SegiZliaT
Cveni mxardaWerac da movlenaTa
Secvlac...
Tavidanve (winaswarve) minda
aseTi ram vTqva samarcxvino sinanuliT: saqarTvelos prezidentad wodebuli nacebis beladi
saakaSvili micvalebulebs umalavda sakuTari ojaxis wevrebs:
mSoblebs, Svilebs, da-Zmebs, meuRleebs... rodesac isini mihyavda
sadRac sasaklaoze da iqve tovebda quCaSi da orRobeebSi dayrilT Rorebis sasWmelad, Tavad
ki Tavqudmoglejili gamorboda...
man maSin sakuTari micvalebulebis gvamebze koncerti gamarTa da
moilxina: ase mxolod monRolebi moiqcnen ruseTis dapyrobisas...
* * *
pativcemulo
mister norland!
Tqven gexsomebaT xiCkokis genialuri filmi `Citebi~, sadac
boroti, `barbarosi~ frinvelebi
pirdapir anadgureben adamianTa
modgmas, maT civilizacias. `Citebis~ es mistikuri ieriSi saSineli katastrofiT Tavdeba _
jojoxeTad aqceven qveyanas...
nacebis xrova swored xiCkokis CitebiviT daesxnen Cveni eris
saarsebo sivrces (suliers da
materialurs ganurCevlad) da
gamoxres...
erT ucnaur magaliTsac moviyvan: rodesac CineTs beRurebma
gadaufrines da mosavali gaunadgures, milioni Cineli gamovida
dafdafebiT: es iyo saocari ajanyeba beRurebis winaaRmdeg, beRurebma Camosajdomi adgili ver naxes da gulgaxeTqili dacvivdnen
miwaze!
Cinelebma mSvidad akribes beRurebi da gemrieli kerZebi moamzades!..
axla Cven rogor moviqceT,
mister norland, rodesac
Cveni simciris gamo arc Zala
gvyofnis da arc raodenoba, gnebavT, `xiCkokis Citebis~ da Tundac `beRurebis~ mosagerieblad...
da miT ufro, Cvenda samwuxarod, saakaSvili da misi xrova
arc `Citebi~ aRmoCndnen da arc
beRurebi. isini kaciWamia virTxebad da folkneris SeRebil jorebad iqcnen da rodesac Cven maTi mogerieba vcadeT, sakuTari
ale tomad iqca... 2 milioni qarTveli ayrilia sakuTari samSoblodan...
gveCveneba, rom es urTulesi movlena, romelic
bediswerulia Cveni erisTvis, ratomRac Tqveni yuradRebis miRma rCeba!..
* * *
migvaCnia, rom sruliad
daucvelia Cveni eri da misi kultura: romelmac uZvelesi damwerloba (anbani) Seqmna; jer kidev Cvens
eramde (III s.Zv.w.), farnava-
_ rodesac qarTvel mefes ase
mimarTavs qveSevrdomi (glexi, meomari): `mefeo, sams rom Sen ityvi, erTi Cemic gaigoneo!~ _ xom
aris es pirovnebis Tavisuflebis
zeimi...
_ rodesac fxoveli moxuci
meomari Temur lengs isars esvris (JinvalTan) da eubneba: vicodi, rom ver mogklavdi, radganac moxuci da avadmyofi var,
magram gagafrTxile, rom ar dagnebdebiT, Cven samSoblos vicavT... mova sxva meomari da imisi isari ar agcdeba~! (Temur
lengs es moxuci gauTavisufle-
zikur simcires gadafaravda sulieri energiiT da zneobrivi
simkacriT da qmnida meomarTa xelovanebis da taZarTa Senebis
unikalur harmonias! genialur
poezias da musikas: `Cakrulos~
axla kosmosSi uSveben RmerTebis mosasmenad...
rac Seexeba `folkneris SeRebil jors~, misnairad gamoiyureba axla eqsoriaSi myofi saakaSvili, romelmac Tavi Seafara
folknerisave qveyanas.
hiCkokis `Citebi~, beRurebis
gadafrena da SeRebili jorebi...
anu Ria werili amerikis elCs
riCard norlands _ ucxoeTis yvela
elCisa da konsulis gasagonad!
mfarvelebis kalTas (qolgebs)
Seafares Tavi. anu evropa da amerika gamodga am gamoyvanili
(klonirebuli) tirani hibridebis patroni, sakuTari xalxis ganadgureba rom SeuZliaT!
* * *
bodiSis moxdiT getyviT mister norland, Cven ara varT
is veluri tomi, sakuTar micvalebulebs xeebze rom kideben
`yvavebis~ sajijgnad, anda sakuTari mkvdrebis saflavebze rokaven. saakaSvili swored ase moiqca: man miatova misive provocirebul `omebSi~ Caxocili meomrebi
da Rorebis sajijgnad gawira _
Tqven ginaxavT brZolis velidan
gaqceuli `sardali~, jer miwas
rom Txris cxviriT, mere ki sakuTar micvalebulTa gvamebze
koncertebs marTavs da ruseTTan
TiTqosda mogebuli omis speqtakls (imitacias) diriJorobs?!
Cven vnaxeT es mware, samarcxvino
speqtakli, romelic saakaSvilma
dadga. igi da misi xrova Seecada
SimSilSi da cixeebSi CaexSo
eris suli da gaugonari ZaladobiT, saflavebakidebuli gaedevna
sakuTari samSoblodan _ man es
nawilobriv SeZlo kidec! _ pirvelad 5000-wlovani istoriis
manZilze, aborigeni eri (romelsac fexi ar moucvlia sakuTari
miwidan) ltolvolad da moxeti-
zis dros hqonda ganviTarebuli
mwignobruli saxelmwifo, xolo
adre SuasaukuneTa renesansi genialuri `vefxistyaosniT~ (dedamiwis zurgze ubadlo wigniT)
gaasrula... (daagvirgvina).
aqve vityviT: Seuracxmyofelia (usamarTloa) qveynisTvis da
yvela CvenganisTvis, rodesac evropidan da amerikidan demokratiis arqonas, an tolerantobis
naklebobas gvikiJineben!
mister norland, Tqven
gyavdaT SesaniSnavi moRvaweni (vaSingtoni, linkolni, jefersoni,
reigani da sxvani da sxvani), romelTac amerikis demokratia da
demokratiuli saxelmwifo Seqmnes.
jefersonma
dagiweraT
brwyinvale
konstitucia XIX
saukuneSi.
Cvenma mefem da dedofalma Tamarma XII saukuneSi Seqmna pirveli
saparlamento demokratiuli, egalitaruli saxelmwifo msoflioSi!
manve gaauqma qveyanaSi sikvdiliT dasja...
kidev qarTvelTa ramdenime
zneobriv qcevaze unda gavamaxvilo yuradReba:
_ rodesac qarTveli qali
mandils agdebs mosisxle-moSuRarTa Soris, omi mTavrdeba _
xom aris es qalis Tayvaniscemis
(genderuli Tanasworobis) gamoxatuleba...
bia) _ xom aris es samSoblos
dacvis (mamulis movlis) misteria?!.
maS, ratom gvaswavlian da
gvikiTxaven demokratiis, genderuli Tanasworobis, tolerantobis leqciebs evro-amerikeli
snobebi?!
nu gvaswavlian imaze mets,
rac saWiroa da imas, rac ukve
didi xania viciT. Cven ara varT
papuasebi, arc kxmerebi da faSistebi, Cvens qveyanaSi arasodes
udevniaT eTnikuri umciresobani.
swored axla ebraelebi qarTvelebTan 3000-wlovani urTierTobis iubiles (dResaswauls) ixdian _ es yvelasTvis sanimuSo magaliTi unda iyos!
* * *
batono norland, weRan
Cinelebi da beRurebi vaxseneT,
agreTve folkneris SeRebili
jorebi...
Cven, qarTvelebi, Cinelebisgan imiT ganvsxvavdebiT, rom ar
mivirTmevT qvewarmavlebis da morielis xorcs, arc beRuras
vklavT! magram varT Zalian cotani _ umciresni CinelebTan SedarebiT! magram viciT aseTi sibrZne: amoarCie bevrSi cota, cotaSi _ bevri; (didSi mcire, mcireSi _ didi). anu Cveni eri fi-
* * *
samwuxarod, mister norland, axla Tqveni amerika da
evropa aRSfoTebuli da SeSfoTebuli brZandebiT imis gamo,
rom saqarTvelos xelisufleba
samarTlis aRdgenas da saakaSvilis tipis damnaSaveTa dasjas
cdilobs!
qarTveli xalxi ki aRSfoTebuli iyo Tqveni dumiliT maSin,
rodesac saqarTvelos XXI saukunis `hiqsosebis~ banda arbevda,
awamebda da aupatiurebda, mitingebs sisxlSi axSobda, telekompaniebs specrazmebiT arbevda.
Tqven aRSfoTeba ar gamogiTqvamT arc maSin, rodesac saakaSvili sakuTari micvalebulebis gvamebze cekvavda da nulovani tolerantobis brZanebebs gascemda
pirdapir televiziidan xalxis
quCebSi dasaxvretad!
rodesac saakaSvilma ruseTTan omis provocireba SeZlo, dakarga teritoriebis 2/3 da qveyana ruseTis saokupacio jarebis
alyaSi moaqcia; pirwmindad Caabara yvela Tqvens mier naboZebi
teqnika da iaraRi, arc maSin gamogixatavT didi aRSfoTeba arc
Tqven da arc im `satelit~ televiziebs da arasamTavroboebs,
13 gv.
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#38, 5 noemberi, 2014 w.
ili s T n mo zre
iakob mansvetaSvili
iyo ilia WavWavaZis Tanamedrove da Tanamoazre, mxarSi edga im dros wamowyebul yvela
qarTul saqmes. qarTvelTa Soris wera-kkiTxvis gamavrcelebeli sazogadoebis mdivnad im
wlebSi muSaobda, roca mas
ilia Tavmjdomareobda. `iveriis~ TanamSromeli, `jejilTan~
da `moambesTanac~ TanamSromlobda, beWdavda patar-ppatara
moTxrobebs, kritikul werilebs, feletonebs. XIX saukunis 70-9
90-iiani wlebis mniSvnelovani movlenebi _ istoriulsocialuri da kulturul-l
literaturuli _ da im drois sazogado moRvaweebTan urTierTobis saintereso epizodebi
gadmocemuli aqvs Tavis `mogonebanSi~, romelic mis sicocxleSive gamoica.
iakob mansvetaSvilis cxovrebis gzas ZiriTadad misive mogonebebiT vecnobiT. norioeli
mRvdlis Svilma Tbilisis sasuliero seminaria rom daamTavra, mis sixaruls sazRvari
ar hqonda, radgan iq `boroti
ganzraxvis wyalobiT gamefebuli iyo egredwodebuli `klasicizmi~, e.i. laTinuri da berZnuli enebi da saeklesio skolebi, e.i. swavla, damyarebuli
Jamn-d
daviTnze da eklesiur galobaze. metadre gaafTrebuli
sisastikiT mZvinvarebda klasicizmi. Tavebs gvaxocinebdnen,
suls gvixuTavdnen, tvins gvifitavdnen laTinuri `supinebiT~, `ablativi absolutebiT~
da berZnuli `aoristebiT~...
TuTiyuSebiviT gvazepirebinebdnen... daJinebiT gvakiTxebden homirosis ganTqmul `iliadas~ da
`odiseas~. mTeli nawyvetebi zepirad unda gvcodnoda. Cvenc
Rameebs vtexdiT, Tvalebs viwyalebdiT da nelis xmiT, cota
mestviruli kiloTi, vizepirebdiT iliadas feradovan berZnul leqsebs. maxsovs Cemi bejiTobis suraTi. movujdebodi magidas, nidayvebiT daveyrdnobodi, xan, xelebs TavSi magrad
wavivlebdi, viryeodi, xmas xan
avumaRlebdi, xan davumdablebdi, mere Tvalebs davxuWavdi,
da Ramis siCumeSi gaismoda Cemi
bubuni: `andra moi, ennepe, muza
politropon~. am dros rom
ucxo visme davenaxe, ityoda: es
swored meSabaTe ebraelia, Tavis talmudsa kiTxulobso~.
swavlis gagrZeleba peterburgSi,
sibrZnismetyvelebis
fakultetze gadawyvita. imperiis dedaqalaqi imitom airCia,
rom iq `axali moZraobis dedabude~ iyo da kidev imitomac,
rom `peterburgis universiteti ganTqmuli iyo Tavisi sabunebismetyvelo fakultetiT, sadac saukeTeso profesorebs moeyaraT Tavi~.
`mamaCems mama antonis monasterSi mivyevar salocvelad, –
gzaSi mfarvelobas gagiwevso.
es monasteri Cveni soflis Tavzea. daarsebulia mama antonis
mier... es antoni iTvleba Cveni
soflis mfarvelad da, maSasada-mme, Cveni ojaxisac. mamaCems,
mRvdels, es wmindad swams. me
Tumca mamis rwmenas ar viziareb, magram mainc ar veurCebi,
ar minda vawyenino...~
Tvalcremliani deda bargs
umzadebda da arigdeba, avad ar
gaxde, Torem vin mogxedavos.
ise acilebda, TiTqos omSi midioda da sasikvdilod iyo ganwiruli.
peterburgisken mgzavroba
saqarTvelos samxedro gziT daiwyo _ maSin baqos rkinigza
jer kidev ar arsebobda. `mSvidobiT, samSoblo qalaqo! did
xans? rodis davbrundebi ukan?
Tu mware bevri masvi, Sengan
sitkboc bevri momagondeba. guli mwydeba, rom mSobel qalaqs
vSordebi. magram Sors Savo
fiqrebo!~ _ ase gamoemSvidoba
dedaqalaqs da xangrZliv gzas
daadga, romelic misTvis uCveulo mogzauroba iyo. vidre omnibusiT mgzavrobda, anu kavkavamde (axlandel vladikavkazamde) gzad `feradebiT naxati suraTebi~ uxarebda guls, xolo
rkinigziT mgzavrobam da `Tvaluwvdeneli mindvrebis erTgvarobam, erTferobam~ daRala.
rostovidan dawyebuli vidre
moskovamde, yvela baqanze `cis
qveS WerexiviT xalxi eyara
upatronod~, romlebic TavianTi winaprebis adgilebidan ayriliyvnen, axal adgilebze dasabinaveblad da samuSaos saZebnelad midiodnen, maTTvis sagangebo matareblis gamoyofas ki
aWianurebdnen. iakobs ukvirs:
`kargi patroni pirutyvs, saqonelsac ar miatovebs ese RvTisanabrobaze, da eseni xom kacni
arian, adamianni, qveynis mkvebavni, misi deda-bboZi. ar menaxa da
ar gamegona CvenSi aseTi ram,
mere ucxo qveynebSic bevri mivlia, bevri minaxavs, magram amisTana ram iq araferi Semxvedria.
ucxoelebisaTvis rom es meambna, imaT uTuod zRaprad eCvenebodaT da sicils momayridnen~.
peterburgma moxibla Tavisi
didebulebiT. saocari STabeWdileba moaxdina mendeleevis
pirvelma leqciamac. mondomebiT
Seudga swavlas, rom kargi specialisti damdgariyo da Tavisi
adgili epova. Tumca imasac xedavda,
rom
universitetSi
mdidruli etlebiT profesorebi ki ar modiodnen, aramed
iuridiuli fakultetis mdida-
ilia WavWavaZe
ri studentebi _ maT mxolod
diplomi sWirdebodaT, rom maTTvis gamzadebul Tbil adgilebze mokalaTebuliyvnen.
studentoba rTul periods
daemTxva: batonymobis Semdeg
gatarebulma reformebma xalxs
yofa odnavadac ver Seumsubuqa,
ukmayofiloTa raodenoba matulobda, revoluciuri ganwyobilebebi mZafrdeboda da es viTareba srudentobaze did gavlenas axdenda...
peterburgSi myofi qarTveli studentebi ZiriTadad vaso
maCablis binaSi ikribebodnen da
saqarTvelos momavalze msjelobdnen. maT xSirad stumrobdnen niko nikolaZe, ukve mxcovani daviT CubinaSvili... yvelaferSi axalgazrdul maqsimalizms avlendnen da amitomac
iyo, rom ver gauges maTTan
stumrad myof dimitri yifians,
romelmac studentebs maTi kamaTis mosmenis Semdeg aseTi ram
uTxra: `Cveni qveyana pataraa,
momuSave Zalebi cota gvyavs,
sifrTxiliT unda moiqceT. did
saqmes nu hkidebT erTbaSad
xels, rom ar daiZalneT da
Cvens samSoblos ar moakldeT~.
saqarTveloSi dabrunebuli
sazogadoebriv saqmianobaSi Caeba.
es is periodia, roca mefis ruseTi aq, saqarTveloSi Tavis wesebs amkvidrebs da yovelive
erovnuls, qarTuls ebrZvis. imdroindelma moRvaweebma ganaTlebis erovnuli sistemis CamoyalibebisTvis zrunva qarTvelTa
Soris wera-kiTxvis gamavrcelebeli sazogadoebis dafuZnebiT
daiwyes. pirveli Tavmjdomare
dimitri yifiani iyo, xolo roca sazogadoebas saTaveSi ilia
WavWavaZe Caudga, 1885-1907
wlebSi, iakob mansvetaSvili sazogadoebis mdivnad muSaobda.
vaJa fSavelasTan pirveli
Sexvedrac amave periods ukavSirdeba. 1887 wels wera-kiTxvis gamavrcelebeli sazogadoebis komitetma sofel ToneTidan werili miiRo, soflis
skolis maswavlebeli luka razikaSvili cudad iqceva, muStikvriT gvimaspinZldeba da xanjliTac gvemuqrebao. saqmis Sesaswavlad iakob mansvetaSvili
gagzavnes. sinamdvileSi aseTi
ram momxdara: manglisSi myof
rus oficrebs duqanSi qarTvelebze augi uTqvamT, rac vaJas
upasuxod ar dautovebia da xeliT Sexebian erTmaneTs. vaJa
kargad nacemi yofila, magram
oficrebsac ugemiaT misi muStis Zala. iakobs saqme mourigebia, skola Seumowmebia, romlis
Semdegac uTqvams: `sasiamovno
sanaxavi iyo Ria, mxiaruli,
cocxali saxe ymawvilebisa, maswavlebels Tamamad epyrobian,
amasTanave disciplinac daculia, etyoba maswavlebels SiSiT ki ara siyvaruliT mounadirebia Tavisken. ymawvilebi
fiqroben da pasuxs ise aZleven
da ara TuTiyuSebiviT dauzepirebiaT~. Sinac swvevia poets.
iakobma iq waikiTxa `Svlis nukris naambobi~ pirvelad, manve
miutana ilia WavWavaZes wasakiTxad da pirveli werili-recenziac TviTonve dawera. `ara,
Cven, Zvelebma, kalami unda davdoT da axlebs unda davuTmoT
gza~, _ aseTi iyo ilias Tavdapirveli Sefaseba. SemdgomSi
iliam vaJaze ganacxada, „rusTavelis Semdeg Cven aseTi niWieri poeti ara gvyoliao“.
ganuzomelia
mniSvneloba
ilia WavWavaZis TaosnobiT dafuZnebuli saadgilmamulo bankisa, romlis filiali baqoSic
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arsebobda da mas gamoCenili moRvaweebi edgnen saTaveSi, maT Soris _ iakob
mansvetaSvilic. baqoSi meuRlesTan nino gvaramaZesTan erTad cxovrobda. iq
yofnisas SeiZines mamuli, sadac navTobis sabado aRmoCnda da ramac didi Semosavali moutana. iakob mansvetaSvilisTvis mecenatoba arc maSin iyo
ucxo, roca saqarTveloSi cxovrobda
da rigiTi literatoris Semosavali
hqonda: Tavisi saxsrebiT gaxsna qarTuli wignebis pirveli maRazia da qarTuli wignebis gamavrcelebel sazogadoebas Tavisi stamba dauTmo. akakis ortomeulis gamocemis xarjebic TviTon gaiRo da ganjidan nikoloz baraTaSvilis neStis TbilisSi Camosvenebis Tanxac. didi kapitalis mqonem baqoSic gaagrZela mecenatoba: iakob mansvetaSvilis iniciativiT am qalaqSi aigo qarTuli skola, daxmarebas uwevda kompozitor kote focxveraSvils, romelsac
yovelTviurad 25 maneT stipendias aZlevda piradi angariSidan, xolo misi-
radgan qonebrivi sakiTxebis mogvareba
surdaT. Svili ZiZas dautoves imis varaudiT, rom maleve dabrundebodnen.
saqmeebis mogvareba iolad ver moxerxda da karga xans darCnen qalaqSi. roca mixvdnen, rom aseTi areulobis
dros mosagvarebel problemebs Tavs
ver gaarTmevdnen, nicaSi dabruneba gadawyvites. amaod _ qalaqidan gasasvleli gzebi Caiketa, verc emigrantebs daemgzavrnen, aqedan Tavis daRwevis yvela
cda uSedegod damTavrda. isRa moaxerxes, rom nicaSi myof ZiZas mindobilobiT TavianTi kapitalis gamoyenebis saSualeba misces. mSoblebis TanxmobiT
borisi ZiZis gvarze gadavida _ fiqrobdnen, rom ukeTesi iqneboda, Tu mdidari navTobmrewvelis Svilis ambavi
sabWoTa kavSirSi ar ecodinebodaT. ukve wamozrdili boris vadimovi mSoblebs hpirdeboda, TqvenTan Camovalo.
iakobsa da ninos SeeSindaT, evropidan
aq Camosuls kargi dRe ar daadgebao da
ukve werilebsac aRar pasuxobdnen,
elodnen xelsayrel dros, rom safrangeTSi gamgzavrebuliyvnen. manamde ki
petrogradidan
TbilisSi dabruneba
Zveli Telavi, batonymobis gadavardnis
gamocxadeba, 1864 wlis 19 Tebervali
hiCkokis `Citebi~, beRurebis
gadafrena da SeRebili jorebi...
anu Ria werili amerikis elCs
riCard norlands _ ucxoeTis yvela
elCisa da konsulis gasagonad!
11 gv.
romlebic Signidan angreven saxelmwifos
da WilyvavebiviT Seesivnen qveyanas...
* * *
axla Cveni eri biZina ivaniSvilisa da
xalxis Tavganwiruli protestis meoxebiT ramdenadme gaTavisuflda am reJimisgan, magram qveyana lamis maT mier danatovari umZimesi memkvidreobis mZevlad iqca.
araferia Tavis adgilze, qva qvaze araa
datovebuli maT mier, sakuTrebaCamorTmeuli, eri ayrili da gandevnilia sakuTari
saxl-karidan; dauZlevelia adamianTa fsiqologiuri da moraluri stresis simZime
_ arc nerons, arc kaligulas, arc hitlers msgavsi barbarosoba ar Caudenia sakuTari xalxis winaaRmdeg...
axla es borotmoqmedni dausjeli daparpaSeben xelSeuxeblobisa da Tqvens mier Tavsmoxveuli `koabitaciuri~ reJimis
meoxebiT...
* * *
xSirad gamoxatavT xolme aRSfoTebas
ama Tu im problemasTan dakavSirebiT, magram arasdros aRSfoTebulxarT `nacebis~
tiraJirebul Wirs, maTi televiziebis
propagandas, pirdapir antisaxelmwifoebriv kompanias, romlebic gadatrialebisken
mouwodeben negatiur Zalebs da im mraval
aTeul arasamTavroboebs, romlebic saxelmwifoSi `saxelmwifod~ iqcnen...
pativcemulo elCo, Tqveni samarTali Tqvens samSobloSi dauSvebs aseT
dausjelobas da usamarTlobas, `koabitaciis~ msgavs gamovlenas? ar dauSvebT
ve rekomendaciiTa da TxovniT baqos
navTobmrewvelTa gamgeobam kompozitors erTjeradad 2 aTasi maneTi gadasca.
es simdidre gaxda maTi ojaxis
`lodi dabrkolebisa~, bediswera da,
garkveulwilad, piradi ubedurebis
momtanic.
...erTxel, iakob mansvetaSvili, rogorc mwerali da sazogado moRvawe,
skolaSi literaturul saRamoze miiwvies. ukve WaRaraSereulma iakobma aq
gaicno momavali meuRle nino gvenetaZe, romelic amave saswavlebelSi rusul enasa da literaturas aswavlida.
nino im dros 35 wlisa iyo, iakobze
oci wliT umcrosi, magram asakobrivi
sxvaobis miuxedavad, erTmaneTs gauges
da maleve Seqmnes ojaxi. Tanacxovrebis
pirveli wlebi baqoSi gaatares, Semdeg
ki sad ar uwevdaT cxovreba. Svili _
borisi peterburgSi daibada. iakobi
saqmeebis gamo bevrs mogzaurobda, xan
germaniaSi midioda, xan safrangeTSi,
xSirad Cadioda peterburgSi, romelsac msoflio omis gamocxadebis Semdeg
ukve petrogradi erqva. nino gamudmebiT Tan dahyveboda meuRles da saqmianobaSi exmareboda. bavSvis gamo ar dardobda, radgan peterburgSive SerCeuli
ZiZa patara boriss sakuTari SviliviT
uvlida.
iakobi ukve navTobmrewveli da Zalian SeZlebuli iyo. ojaxs saqarTvelos garda uZravi qoneba hqonda azerbaijanSi, ruseTSi, evropaSi, maT Soris
ruseTis aristokratiis sayvarel kurort nicaSic. erTxans swored am qalaqSi damkvidrdnen. amasobaSi ruseTSi
1917 wlis revoluciam ifeTqa. miuxedavad didi riskisa, iakobma da ninom
petrogradSi wasvla mainc gariskes,
gadawyvites. roca gamoemgzavrnen, qalaqs ukve leningradi erqva.
nicidan gamomgzavrebis Semdeg ukve
TerTmeti weli iyo gasuli...
ninom Tavis Zvel skolaSi gaagrZela maswavlebloba. iakobi ki literaturaSi axalfexSemodgmul axalgazrdebs gzas ulocavda, rCevebs aZlevda _
maTi nawerebis pirveli wamkiTxvelic
is iyo da recenziebis avtoric. amboben, rom mas gansakuTrebiT gogla leoniZe moswonda.
Tavs gadaxdenili ambebi aRwera wignSi `mogonebani, naxuli da gaonili~,
romelic pirvelad 1936 wels daibeWda wignad (aTeuli wlebis Semdeg misi
meoredac gamoica).
1944 wels gardaicvala. damkrZalav
komisias gogla leoniZe xelmZRvanelobda. uamravma xalxma pativiT gaacila im qveynad kaci, romelmac SemTxveviTobis wyalobiT didi simdidre moixveWa da bednierebas eziara; imave SemTxveviTobis gamo dakarga is, risTvisac
cocxlobda _ Svili. meuRlem didxans
icocxla, 96 wlisa gardaicvala. meuRlis gverdiT ver dakrZales: omis periodSi kukiis sasaflaoze asvla did
xifaTs ukavSirdeboda, ambobdnen, rom
iq saeWvo xalxi ikribeboda da vin
icis, ra xifaTs gadaeyrebodnen. roca
asvla SeZles, sasaflao ise gazrdiliyo, rom iakobis saflavs veRar miagnes.
`gaTavda Cemi tanjva-vaebis xana~ _
ase gamoemSvidoba Wabuki iakob mansvetaSvili Tbilisis sasuliero seminarias. ase zustad, albaT, sxvas verc
verafers ityoda maSin, roca 89 wlisas sicocxlesTan ganSorebis dRe daudga...
elza nabaxteveli
Tqven amas! maS, ra eqsperiments gvitarebT
Cven, rogorc sacdeli kurdRlebis qveyanas. garwmunebT, rom ar gamogadgebiT Cven
aseTi eqsperimentisTvis!
* * *
da mainc, pativcemulo elCo, yvelaze saxifaTo is aris, rom: saqarTvelo
saakaSvilma pirdapir `dinozavrebis~
brZolis poligonze Seagdo _ es metad
sabediswero TamaSia Cveni qveynisTvis...
aseTi politikiT XXI saukuneSi SesaZloa, iseve gaqres kulturuli rasa, rogorc odesRac genialuri Sumerebi...
samwuxarod, saqarTvelo aRmoCnda sacdeli xaris rolSi, romelsac `wiTel naWers~ ufrialeben, rom `toreadoris~ maxvilis msxverpli gaxdes. am mzakvrul
rols isev da isev nacebi asruleben, rom
Semdeg yvelaferi ivaniSvils an axva vinmes gadaabralon! Cven gveCveneba, rom es
garemoebac Tqveni yuradRebis miRma rCeba,
an ar TvliT arsebiTad da TqvenTvis bevri ram sul erTia?! (anu) maS, ra ganapirobebs am kaciWamia virTxebis mxardaWeras
(romlebic arc demokratebi arian da arc
`humanoidebi~) civilizebuli amerikis da
evropis mxridan?
dabolos, ar gvinda Camogviyalibdes
`gonivruli eWvi~, rom saakaSvili Tqveni
`uZRebi Svilia~ da cdilobT mis gadarCenas qarTveli eris sazianod. nu gviwyenT,
mister norland, Tu gsayvedurobT zog
rames da gamovTqvamT eWvs: amas Cveni samSoblos bediswera da misi gadarCenis instinqti gvkarnaxobs!
xazgasmiT aRvniSnavT, rom Cven sxva
samSoblo ar gagvaCnia, es aris Cveni `aRTqmuli qveyana~ naboZebi uflis mier, aqa
varT dasabamidan dRemde: aq vkvdebiT da
vibadebiT da aq vapirebT yofnas JamTa moqcevamde _ Cven winaparTagan damkvidrebul
kulturul-istoriul sivrceSi _ `samSoblos arvis wavarTmevT, Cvenc nurvin
Segvecileba~ _ Cveni es sakraluri devizi yvelam unda gaacnobieros...
meCveneba, rom Tqven SigadaSig aqebT da
amiT aqezebT alasanias, romelic metad saxifaTo maprovocirebel gancxadebebs akeTebs _ saqarTveloSi natos samxedro Tu
sawvrTneli bazebis da sistemebis ganlagebaze... SeZlebT Tqven, mister norland,
saqarTveloze (da kavkasiaze) ruseTis
ieriSebis mogeriebas?
Tqven erTxel es xom ver SeZeliT?!..
P.S. mister norland, es werili moklec aris da grZelic. grZeli imitom,
rom elCs (SekumSuli drois gaTvaliswinebiT) aTgverdiani qaR
Raldi ar unda mis-
wero (110 furcelze SeiZleba vrceli romani daetios), mokle imitom, rom mainc
ver vTqqviT mTavari (``bevrSi cota ver CavtieT!~).
Tumca Cveni mTavari survili da saTqqmeli Tqqvens mimarT is gaxlavT, rom nu
gaaxvevT Cvens qveyanas XXI saukunis apokalifsuri omebis burusSi _ arc ruseTis, arc natos da sxva romelime qveynis
bazebi Cven ar gvWirdeba. gvirCevnia davrCeT sruliad uiraR
Ro _ siyvaruliT Semosili Cveni taZrebis garemocvaSi...
koba arabuli,
mwerali,
eTnokulturaTa mkvlevari
595 57 99 43
P.S. werilis inglisuri Targmani gadaegzavneba baton riCard norlands da saqarTveloSi akreditirebul yvela saelCos.
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wylis industriis
ganviTarebiT saqarTvelo
msoflioSi erT-erTi
umdidresi qveyana gaxdeba
2015 wlidan msoflios sasmeli
wylis deficiti emuqreba, romlis
aRmofxvra mxolod saqarTvelos SeuZlia
vesaubrebiT saaqcio sazogadoeba `saqarTvelos bunebrivi sasmeli wylis industriis ganviTarebis centris~
xelmZRvanels baton paata
giorgaZes.
_ batono paata, rodis gadawyda, rom Seqmniliyo qarTuli sasmeli wylis industria an ram ganapiroba es yovelive?
_ dRes qveyana rom gamovides ekonomikuri krizisidan, is unda gaxdes raime
produqciis
mwarmoebeli,
romlis safuZvelze gaizrdeba Sidaproduqti. aqve davamateb, rom makroekonomikuri
kvlevebi am mimarTulebiT
gagrZelda
Semdgom
2011
wlamde da vmuSaobdiT im periodSi `qarTuli ocnebis~
mier Seqmnil Tematur jgufSi. miwisqveSa gruntis
wyali _ rogorc produqti SemdgomSi, gamovavlineT rogorc konkurentunariani upiratesobis
erTaderTi
resursi. SegaxsenebT,
450 bunebrivi sabadoa
saqarTveloSi, magram
danarCeni yvela amowurvadia, romlis balansis Sevsebas Semdegom wlebi sWirdeba,
rac am SemTxvevaSi ar
emuqreba
gruntis
wyals _ is amouwurvadi, ganaxlebadi produqtia. dReisaTvis SevimuSaveT modeli Tanamedrove
midgomebiT, romelic msoflio finansur resursebSi
CarTvis meqanizmebis gamoyenebiT vaqcieT materialur dovlaTad. am modeliT movaxdineT saerTaSoriso safondo
birJebze Cveni, rogorc adamianisTvis aucilebeli sasicocxlo produqtis materializeba _ rac ase mniSnvelovania dRevandeli msofliosTvis. aq Cven kapitalizaciis
Tanamedrove teqnologiebi
gamoviyeneT. es gaxlavT unikaluri modeli, xolo produqti sruliad inovaciuri
msoflio bazarze.
_ miwisqveSa gruntis
wylis ra maragi gaaCnia dRes
saqarTvelos?
_ cxadia, es sakiTxi Seswavlili da garkveulia,
getyviT cifrsac, es aris 301
metrkubi wamSi! saqarTvelos
hidrologiuri kvleviTi institutis mier Catarebuli
kvlevebis safuZvelze dadgenilia es raodenoba. es gaxlavT saeqspluatacio dasaSvebi raodenoba, romlis gamoyeneba araviTar ekologiur
cvlilebas ar moaxdens saqarTvelos landSaftze. es
kvleva Tavis droze Catarebulia didi mecnieris, akademikos ioseb buaCiZis mier.
axla vTqvaT, ras niSnavs
maragi 301 metrkubi wamSi,
ra raodenobis wyalia es? es
RameSi warmoraodenoba dRe-R
adgens 26 miliard litr
wyals anu samrewvelo mniSvnelobiT SegviZlia mivipovoT
26 miliardi litri wyali _
igulisxmeba mTel saqarTvelos teritoriaze. aqve unda
aRvniSnoT, ra raodenobis
wyalia saWiro adamianisTvis
fiziologiuri normiT dReRameSi 2,5 litri _ es gaxlavT biologiuri norma. aqve unda iTqvas, Tu ra raodenobis wyali sWirdeba mTel
planetas? mosaxleoba dReisTvis aris daaxloebiT 7,5 miliardi, aqedan gamomdinare,
mTeli planeta dRe-RameSi
saWiroebs
17,5
miliard
litr sasmel wyals normaluri arsebobisTvis. daskvna aseTia, Tu msoflios mosaxleoba saWiroebs dRe-RameSi 17,5 miliard litr sasmel
wyals da Cven gvaqvs 26
miliardi litri, faq-
tobrivad, SegviZlia
movamaragoT
mTeli
msoflio
ise,
rom
gvrCeba wylis Warbi
raodenoba 8,5 miliardi litri. yovelive
amis saSualebas gvaZlevs is 26 aTas 60 mdinare, romelic saqarTvelos
teritoriazea.
minda aRvniSno, rom am zedapirul wylebs ar vexebiT,
anu mdinareebs. daTvlili gvaqvs mxolod miwisqveSa gruntis wyali.
Cven varT msoflioSi
erT-erTi umdidresi qveyana hidroresursebiT,
anu wylis maragiT.
Tu gvinda mdgradi
ekonomikuri ganviTareba,
unda ganvaviTaroT erovnuli ekonomika. am SemTxvevaSi qarTuli wyali unikaluria, romelic 4 da 5-sarTulian Sreebs gaivlis da bunebrivad
iRebs vulkanur SreebSi adamianisTvis sasicocxlo mniSvnelobis
elementebs da nivTierebebs da amoedineba gafiltruli miwis zedapirze.
dRevandelma
kvlevebma
gviCvena, rom saqarTvelos gaaCnia msoflio mniSvnelobis
erTaderTi resursi miwisqveSa gruntis wylebis maragi,
romelic unda iqnes gamoyenebuli qveynisa da xalxis sakeTildReod, ekonomikis aRmavlobisTvis. msoflioSi arsebobs sasmeli wylis globa-
luri krizisi, 2015 wlidan ukve 5 miliardi
adamiani darCeba wylis
gareSe, romlebic cxovroben wylis deficitis zonebSi. ase rom, es
problema kars momdgaria ukve! gaeros mier dadgenili iyo, rom es dro dadgeboda 2025 wels, samwuxarod, bolo kvlevebiT am
problemam 10 wliT adre
ujeti Seivseba erTi wlis
ganmavlobaSi 3 miliardi dolariT, dasaqmdeba mosaxleobid udidesi nawili, romelTa xelfasi Cveni gaangariSebiT iqneba 1500 dolaris Sesabamisi larSi. am yvelafers
makroekonomikuri kvlevebi
gviCvenebs.
biZina ivaniSvils am proeqtis Sesaxeb 2011 welsve
movaxseneT da moiwona da
gadmoiwia, rac samwuxaroa
erTi mxriv, amave dros saqarTvelos uCndeba Sansi, rom
problemidan gamomdinare, rac
SeiZleba male gaxdes Cveni
qveyana sasmeli wylis industriuli warmoebisa da mza
produqsiis msoflio bazarze
gamtan qveynad. Tu movaxerxebT da yvela municipalur
erTeulSi TiTo sawarmos
avaSenebT, umdidresi qveyana
gavxdebiT.
es
realuria!
qveynis fuladi Semosavlebi
marto am warmoebiT gaizrdeba 12 miliardi dolariT, bi-
Segvpirda, rom yvelafers gavakeTeb misi drouli ganxorcielebisTviso. amis Semdeg
ki Seiqmna sakoordinacio
sabWo, romlic Tavmjdomarec
batoni premieri irakli RaribaSvili gaxlavT. aseve
sadReisod Seqmnilia saaqcio
sazogadoeba qarTveli mecnierebisa da sazogado moRvaweebisgan _ `saqarTvelos bunebrivi sasmeli wylis industriis ganviTarebis centri~.
_ dRes ra etapzea es saqme?
_ sadReisod gadavdivarT
ukve praqtikul saqmianobaze,
CamovyalibdiT rogorc oficialuri fizikuri piri da
viwyebT xelisuflebasTan TanamSromlobas.
_ rodis SeZlebT ukve
wylis Camosxmas da realizacias?
_ april-maisidan ukve gvinda produqcia SevqmnaT, CamovasxaT wyali, arsebobs ukve SerCeuli adgilebi WaburRilebisTvis imereTis teritoriaze. cxadia, saqmes eyoleba investori, magram Cveni
mkacri moTxovniT, saqarTvelos darCeba sakontrolo paketi da marTvis ufleba _ es
yvelaze mniSvnelovania am saqmeSi.
eTer kasreliSvili
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,,saerTo gazeTi“ zviad gamsaxurdias xelisuflebis erTerTi cnobil saxes, saqarTvelos respublikis uzenaesi
sabWos deputats avTandil
rcxilaZes esaubra.
_ 1992 wlis saxelmwifo
gadatrialeba, putCi, rogorc
daiwyo, Tqven kargad gaxsovT...
gvaqvs Tu ara dRes saxeze saxelmwifo
gadatrialebis
mcdelobis niSnebi?
_ me Tu mkiTxavT, dRes
sul sxva situaciaa... putCi
dagegmili iyo, uSualod ruseTis mier mowyobili gadatrialeba iyo, Tumc amerikis mier daanonsebuli, magram xazs
vusvam, ganxorcielebuli ruseTis mier. diax, ase iyo, aba,
Tqven ra ggoniaT, kitovanma da
siguam mogviges ? nu gamacinebT. 26 dekembers isini garbodnen, rusebma moatriales.
rusebs eubnebodnen, aRaraferi
gvaqvs, yvelaferi, broneteqnika, qobalias gvardiam dagviwvao. saRamomde yvelaferi geqnebaT, adgilze dabrundiTo,
uTxres, rusebma da kvlav Tbilisis zRvaze ayares. asec
moxda. saRamos, tankebi, beteerebi da rusuli ekipaJebic ki
iq iyvnen. ai, maT dagvamxes
Cven. dRes ki, rogorc giTxariT, sul sxva mdgomareobaa,
axla getyviT ra viTarebacaa.
saSiSroeba, ra Tqma unda,
aris, magram darwmunebuli
var, nacmoZraobas Zala ar gaaCnia. jer erTi, saxelmwifo
gadatrialebas xalxis mxardaWera sWirdeba, rac ar aqvT.
saerTodac, imdeni ar qnan, rom
eseni xalxma marTla daglijos da xeebze fexiT dakidos,
me ubralod, vafrTxileb maT.
diax, nu, iTxrian samares, politikuri samare xom ukve gaiTxares da axla fizikur samares nu gaiTxrian. da mainc,
darwmunebuli var, areulobis
mowyobas, Seecdebian. gavixsenoT, saakaSvili jer kidev maidnidan imuqreboda, Semdeg
TaTbirebi Caatara sarfTan,
axla baqoSi Cautarebia, instruqciebs iZleva, didi mxardaWera aqvs dasavleTisgan, saidanac didi zewolaa saqarTve-
ocnebaze metic aqvs. mokled,
saqarTveloSi areulobis mosawyobad maT sakmarisi Tanxa
aqvT. sxvaTa Soris, maT Zalian kargad ician, rom rac ar
unda areuloba moawyon, ocnebas verafers uzamen, anu ver
daamxoben, magram Seecdebian
ocnebis diskreditacias. anu
moawyoben provokaciebs, yvelafers gaakeTeben imisTvis, rom
Sinagan saqmeTa saministros
sulma wasZlios, xeli waucdes da Zala gamoiyenos maT
winaaRmdeg, araproporciul
Zalas vgulisxmob, amiT moax-
xalxis mxardaWera ar aqvT (es
Tqvenc aRniSneT), Tumca gamsaxurdias xelisufleba, rom
daamxes iyo es sazogadoebisgan
mxardaWerili?
_ swori kiTxvaa. ra Tqma
unda, sazogadoebisgan mxardaWerili ar iyo. vimeoreb, saSiSroeba aris, araferia gamoricxuli, nacionalebi yvela
meTods mimarTaven. pirveli aqcia iqneba moTelva, Zalebs mosinjaven, naxaven xalxs rogori reaqcia eqneba. Cven amdeni
ubedureba gvaqvs gadatanili
da vfiqrob, aRar wamovegebiT
avTandil rcxilaZe:
makkeins, qorebs, yvavebs da sxva
mamaZaRlebs, iseTive SeSlilebsa
da giJebs, rogoric saakaSvilia,
saqarTveloSi areuloba awyobT...
denen ocnebis diskreditacias dasavleTis TvalSi, aseTia
maTi Canafiqri. amitom xelisufleba Zalian frTxilad unda iyos. RaribaSvili niWieri,
patrioti da patiosani kacia,
Tumca axalgazrdaa da SeiZleba emociebma daZlios da WikaiZemac gasces maTi darbevis
brZaneba, ris Semdegac daiwyeba saubrebi, ai, xedavT diqtaturaa, Zaladobrivi xelisuflebaa da a.S. garda amisa, meore sakiTxia, awyobs Tu ara
ruseTs dRes am saxis areuloba saqarTveloSi ? ra Tqma unda, awyobs. imitom ki ar
awyobs, rom saakaSvili ruseTis agentia, aramed imitom,
rom Tqvas, ai, dasavleTi Tavisi agenturiT ras akeTebs saqarTveloSi, qarTvelobo, axla mainc modiT gons, ra dros
natoa?
_ SesaZloa viRac seriozulad ar uyurebs Seqmnil viTarebas, radgan nacionalebs
amas. gavmeordebi, didi sifrTxilea saWiro. xelisuflebam
prevencia unda moaxdinos. mxileba, nacmoZraobis mxileba,
esaa saukeTeso prevencia. sxvaTa Soris, nacebis, margvelaSvilisa da respublikelebis
ideologia aris erTi da igive. diax, prezidentis, parla-
,,moawyoben provokaciebs, yvelafers gaakeTeben imisTvis, rom Sinagan saqmeTa saministros sulma waZlios, xeli waucdes da
Zala gamoiyenos maT winaaRmdeg“.
los xelisuflebaze. dRes amboben, saakaSvili ruseTidan
imarTebao, aba, rogor SeiZleba saakaSvili iyos axla, amjerad, ruseTis agenti da dasavleTi uWerdes mxars? ra konfrontaciaa am or saxelmwifos Soris, viciT da raRa, maincdamainc, saakaSvilis sakiTxSi monaxes saerTo ena? me
eWvi mepareba. saakaSvils dasavleTidan aqvs didi mxardaWera, igive makeinis mxridan.
ai, is aris yvelaze didi mxardamWeri da wamqezebeli saakaSvilis, fuliT mommaragebelic,
fuli ar aklia nacmoZraobas,
mentis Tavjdomarisa da nacebis ideologia aris erTi da
igive. isini erTi centridan
imarTebian, romlis saxelic
aris sorosi, libermani, makeini da vulfovitsi. es ukanaskneli prezident buSi umcrosis dros aSS-s Tavdacvis ministris moadgile iyo. erTxel man ganacxada Semdegi:
qveynebSi, romlebic nebayoflobiT ar miiReben amerikul
demokratiasa da cxovrebis
wess, amas zarbaznebiT davamkvidrebTo.
_ anu fiqrobT, saakaSvils
ruseTi ar umagrebs zurgs,
Tumca Crdiloel mezobels
saqarTveloSi areuloba awyobs...
_ 2008 wels moxda is,
rac moxda. axla sakiTxavia,
ratom iyo saakaSvili ase daqoqili. SeiZleba is marTlac
ruseTis davalebas asrulebda,
rom Semdeg ruseTs iolad moexdina is, rac 2008 wlis Semdeg moaxdina - afxazeTisa da
cxinvalis damoukideblobis
cnoba. garda amisa, jer kidev
2008 wlamde da Semdegac saqarTvelos ekonomikis mniSvnelovani nawili ruseTis xelSi
aRmoCnda, rogor ruseTi okupantia da ekonomikis mniSvnelovani nawili ratom gadadis
mis xelSi ?! meore, dasavleTi
yovelTvis aris konfrontaciaSi ruseTTan, magram aris sakiTxebi, sadac isini TanamSromloben. pragmatizmi mefobs
politikaSi. axla dasavleTSi
arian normaluri mimdinareobis politikuri Zalebi, magram
arian saSineli qorebi, omis
partia - prezidenti buSi,
dikCeini,
madlenolbraiti,
klintoni, misi meuRle hilari klintoni (momavali prezidentia mgoni), libermani da
makeini, es naxevrad giJi adamiani, Seuracxadi saakaSviliviT,
aranormaluri. vimeoreb, ai, am
Zalam Seqmna saakaSvilisgan
politikuri avanturist Wikarti, romelic unda yofiliyo SerWobili yovelTvis putinisa da misi administraciis
sajdomze, yovelTvis uxerxul mdgomareobaSi, rom hyoloda ruseTi, rom wamoego
provokaciaze,
msoflios
TvalSi gamoCeniliyo monstr
Zalad. saakaSvili brwyinvaled
asrulebda yvelafer amas. uyureT, erTis mxriv, aSS-s administracia eubneba saakaSvils,
frTxilad iyavio, meores
mxriv, makeini da es politikur-satanisturi banda ubiZgebs ruseTTan konfrontaciisken da miviReT 2008 wels is,
rac miviReT. faqtia, saakaSvilma 8 agvistosTvis ori
tribuna da asobiT droSa moamzadebina, imedi hqonda, rom
Sevidoda cxinvalSi da gamarTvda mitings. ratom ori tribuna? erTi TavisTvis, meore,
CemTvis yovlad gaugebari samxreT oseTis droebiTi administraciis direqtor sanakoevisTvis. ai, es posti niSnavda
imas, rom saakaSvili aRiarebda
samxreT oseTis, faqtobriv
arsebobas. axla Caabara Tu ara
ruseTs es teritoriebi ramis
sanacvlod, ar vici, magram
faqtia, rom es yvelaferi ruseTis sasargeblod damTavrda.
qeTi xomeriki
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gagrZeleba. dasawyisi
ix. wina nomerSi
ananuri _ mJave wylebi _
gergetis sameba _
xevis sioni _ larsi
ananurisken mimavlebma kidev
araerTxel aRvniSneT gulistkiviliT saqarTvelos istoriis raoden mniSvnelovani epoqaa CaZiruli
Jinvalis wyalsacavis fskerze da
amasobaSi fasanauris mimdebared
avtomobilebis e.w sasaflaos (zo-
`moviaroT saqarTvelo~ _ mogzaurTa klubi
movi roT s q rTvelo!
mkiTxvelma gansajos _ ananurSi
stumrad misul saqarTvelos prezidents sasuliero pirebma gaTbobis problemis mogvareba sTxoves. prezidentma `gulTan axlos
miitana~ maTi Txovna, sakuTari
fondidan 48 000 lari gamoyo da
ananuri
gi muzeums uwodebs) mivadeqiT,
romelic Semcirebuli gveCvena.
rogorc gavigeT, `muzeumis Semgrovebels~ ramdenime eqsponati gauyidavs. daJanguli yvelganmavali
(`vezdexodi~) hidrometeorologiuri sadguris sakuTreba yofila
odesRac, magram mas ra uWirs, eqspluataciis vada gauvida da Camoiwera, TviT sadguris Senoba aris
sakiTxavi, Tu iTvleba, rom is
funqcionirebs. vutrialeT garSemo patara, erTsarTulian Senobas,
romelic sulebis samyofels hgavda saSinelebaTa filmidan, magram
verc SevediT, verc Ze-xorcielis
arseboba SevniSneT _ uecari saSineli eldis gamo rom adamianebi
gaqrebian, magram maTi aura igrZnoba, swored amgvari Senoba iyo. fotoze ar aRiqmeba misi realuri
saxe, Torem adamians SiSi Segipyrobs, amaT prognozs Cemi mteri
endoso da am dros, stiqiur ubedurebaTa 80% hidrometeorologiuri xasiaTisaa. is `vezdexodi~
am e.w hidromet-dawesebulebasTan
unda idges erTmaneTi kargad rom
Seavson da daufaseblad migdebuli dargisadmi saxelmwifos midgoma Seicvalos...
ananuri
ananuri qarTuli xuroTmoZRvrebis is Zeglia, romelsac mudmivad hyavs damTvalierebeli. yvela
Cvenganic namyofi iyo, magram
gverds ver avuvlidiT, sanTeli
unda agvenTo. bednieri SemTxveva
rom ara, verc Cven vnaxavdiT imas,
ras ananuris Zalian bevr stumars
arasdros unaxavs da mizezTa gamo
kargaxans verc naxavs. ananuris
kompleqsis aRwera Cveni klubis
wevrebis prerogativa ar aris, magram rac ananurSia da yvelas ar
unaxavs, an yuradReba ar miuqcevia,
mniSvnelovani Tu ara, zogi ram
yuradsaRebia, zogi _ saintereso.
upirvelesad aRvniSnoT, rom
Jinvalis wyalsacavis gamo ananuris kompleqsisTvis wlebis Semdeg raime problemis Seqmnis SesaZleblobas gamoricxavs im rangis geografi, rogoricaa profesori giorgi dvaliSvili, vinaidan mxolod ananuris mimdebare
teritoria da isic weliwadSi
mxolod
TvenaxevariT
ivseba
wyalsacavis wyliT.
(foto, romelmac moiara internetsivrce risi dasturia,
#38, 5 noemberi, 2014 w.
ananuris eklesiis me-17 saukunis
rkinis kari gamaTbobel `karmas~
gamwovebis Tavgasayofad gamoWres!
prezidenti gulisxmieri aRmoCnda, sasuliero pirebi _ gaTbnen,
istoriuli kari _ jarTad iqca...)
ananuris cixe-simagre erT-erTi yvelaze kargad Semonaxuli
xuroTmoZRvruli kompleqsia romelic feodaluri periodis saqarTvelodan SemogvrCa. aragvis
erisTavebma im droisaTvis sworad
Seafases ananuris strategiuli
mniSvneloba, Cadges pirveli ocmetriani sayaraulo koSki romelic amJamad citadelis centrSia
moqceuli da warmoadgenda CrdiloeTidan momavali gzis Camkets.
momdevno saukuneebSi, rodesac
aragvis erisTavebma rezidencia
ananurSi gadmoitanes (duSeTidan), daiwyo ananuris ayvavebis xana. XVII saukuneSi dasrulda deda-cixe da amave xanebSia agebuli
mcire zomis erTnaviani eklesia
romelsac adgilobrivebi `mkurnals~ uwodeben (wm. panteleimonis saxelobis). amave saukunis
Sua wlebSi aigo mciregumbaTiani
taZari `RvTaeba~. ansamblis umTavresi arqiteqturuli nageboba ki
(RvTismSoblis miZinebis saxelobis), taZris samxreTi kedlis
warweris mixedviT, qarTlis mefis mdivanbeg barZimis brZanebiT
augiaT 1689 wels. galavnis dasavleT nawilSi aRmarTulia oTxkuTxa, SvidsarTuliani koSki `Seupovari~.
ratom daerqva ananurs `ananuri~ _ erTi TqmulebiT, Tavadis
qals, anas, lekis biWi moswonebia,
siyvarulma sZlia da motyuebulma lekebs karebi gauRo, Tumca,
roca naxa ra Sedegic mohyva mis
saqciels, sinanulma sZlia, anu
sananuri gauxda; meore legendis
mixedviT, ananuris piras, mdinaresTan mtris jari dabanakebula.
adrian dilas wyali movardnila
da dabanakebulebi wyals wauRia,
darCenilebs ki mTielebi dasxmian
Tavs. erT-erT mTavars uTqvams,
sananurad darCaT aq mosvlao...
gvel-g
gveleSapi
imis gamo, rom koSki faravs,
albaT, iSviaTad vinmes Tu SeumCnevia taZris kedelze ra aris gamosaxuli. Sua areSi uzarmazari moCuqurTmebuli jvaria, romelic
or gvel-gveleSapze dgas. SeiZle-
mogzaurobis msurvelebs SuZliaT
daukavSirdenen telefonze 598 73 12 22
ba, sxva qristianul Zeglebzec
aris gamosaxuli gvel-gveleSapi
erTad, magram miuxedavad imisa,
rom meramdened viyaviT yvelani ananurSi, ver davTvaleT, pirvelad
SevniSneT. maqsimalurad vecade
koSksa da eklesias Soris darCenil mcire sivrceSi SeZvroma, rom
foto gadameRo `gvel-gveleSapisTvis.~ es saxeli SemTxveviT ar Sevarqvi. Tu kargad daakvirdebiT,
qveda _ gveleSapia, zeda _ gveli
da aseTive daboloeba aqvs, anu orTavianebi arian? (samwuxarod, xelovnebaTmcodneebis naSromebSi saxeldaxelod versad mivakvlie axsnas, mxolod zogadad aris naxsenebi aRniSnuli bareliefi)
qarTul miTologiidan RvTaebis damxmare gvelisfers vicnobT,
romelic dabmuli gvelis an gveleSapis saxiT gvevlineba. gvelisferi gmiravs RvTaebis mtrebs, mis
erTgulebs ki gasaWirSi exmareba,
jaWvidan aSvebuli sjis RvTaebis
urCebs _ viTom, erTi maTgani gvelisferia? meore? an ratom arian
gamoyenebulebi jvris sadgamad?
miRebulia mosazreba, rom gveleSapi gvelis miTologiuri saxis ganviTarebis Sedegad Camoyalibebuli miTiuri personaJia.
rogorc wesi, gveleSapi boroti
arsebaa, wylis stiqias ganagebs da
klavs gmiri _ es aris klasikuri
samyaroebis xilul sazRvrad da
SemakavSireblad ganisazRvreba.
qarTul zepirsityvierebaSi
gveleSapis dasaCuqrebulebi arian
meqobairi, qalandauri, TorRva Zaganis Ze; yabardoeli maSuka da yaraCaeli Sauai, es xazi Semdgom
gaxmianda mTel rig Tqmulebebsa
da evropis xalxTa zRaprebSi...
asea Tu ise, ananuris RvTismSoblis miZinebis saxelobis taZris fasadze jvris sadgamad gamosaxulia ucnauri simbolo, gaurkvevel urTierTobaSi myofi gveli da gveleSapis bareliefi.
mciregumbaTiani
taZari `RvTaeba~
moviareT ananuris mTeli kompleqsi, koSkebi, taZari, galavani,
`mkurnali~, miwisqveSeTSic ki
CavZveriT (aRmoCnda, rom manamde
arc misTvis migviqcevia yuradReba), sadac iSviaTad rom turistma fexi Caadgas. `mkurnalisken~
mimaval sivrceSia viwroze gaWrili `raRac Casasvleli~, romelsac yvela amCnevs, magram erT safexurzec ki aravis cdilobs fexis Cadgmas _ roca piradad CavZveri, mereRa mivxvdi, rom raRac
amoucnob SiSis grZnobas badebs.
oTxiodem gavbedeT da bolomde
CavediT. miwisqveSa gza taZris Sesasvlelidan mopirdapire mxares
gvel-g
gveleSapi
miTologiuri modeli romelic
indoevropuli kulturis wiaRSi
gaformda.
vinmes unda Tu ar unda amis
aRiareba, mas win uZRvis gansxvavebuli arqitepuli siuJeti, romlis fragmentebi Semoinaxa kavkasiurma folklorma da mcireaziurma (xaTur-xeTurma) ritualebma, sadac gveleSapi mniSvnelovan
miTosur saxes warmoadgens. igi
baraqianobas ganasaxierebda da
samyaros SemakavSirebel funqcias
asrulebda. gveleSapi, rogorc
wylis stiqiis gansaxiereba sicocxlis momniWeblad iTvleboda
da Tayvaniscemis obieqti iyo.
Crdilokavkasiuri da qarTveluri
eTnografiul-folkloruli masala adasturebs, rom kavkasiaSi
arsebobda wylis kulti. wyals
ulocavdnen axal wels, mihqondaT
ZRveni, warmoTqvamdnen locvebs.
aseve, raTa gamoeTxovaT wvima da
Sedegad mieRoT nayofiereba, mTebTan
ewyoboda
msvlelobebi
msxverplSewirviTa da megaliTur
ZeglebTan locviT. am yvelafris
adresati ki iyo gveleSapi.
gveleSapi aRqmulia arsebad,
romelsac veSapis sxeuli aqvs
gvelis kudiTa da frTebiT, piridan ki cecxls afrqvevs, Aanu,
oTxive stiqiasTan aqvs kavSiri da
am sferoebis codnas flobs. kavkasiur folklorSi igi mTis
mwvervalze wevs, napralTan da
gadioda _ Cveni azriT, es iyo Casasvleli mdinareze, romelic
Jinvalis dagubebamde moedineboda.
yvela SemTxvevaSi, cixe-koSkidan
sacalo gasasvleli iyo, saidanac
tyesac Seeroda adamiani da xevxuvebsac, wyalsac amoitanda mdinaridan da mstovarsac gauSvebda
Tu miiRebda... erTaderTi, rac
unaxavi gvrCeboda da arc arasdros gvenaxa, `RvTaebis~ momcro
taZris interieri iyo.
bis jgufis xelmZRvaneli, pativcemuli profesori (fotoze aRvbeWde, magram vinaoba, mizezTa gamo, samwuxarod, ucnobi darCa).
rodesac gaigo profesorma (romelsac me `yovlismcodne ~ Sevarqvi), rom arasdros gvenaxa ra iyo
`RvTaebaSi~, laSas uTxra, SemomyeviTo da SevyeviT (sxva jgufebi
kvlavac misi unaxavebi darCnen).
taZris SigniT erTi SexedviT,
araferia, sibnelea da pirvelyofil miwurs hgavs, SeiZleba vercki SeniSnos mnaxvelma, rom gumbaTqveSa marjvena mklavSi qviT nagebi baldaxinia _ saflavze agebuli Zegli, romelic ana-xanums
udrood gardacvlili meuRlisTvis, saqarTvelos mdivanbeg ediSer
erisTavisTvis augia.
rogorc aRmoCnda, ucxoelebis
mravalricxovani jgufi, romelsac megzurobas batoni profesori uwevda, poloneTidan iyvnen,
magram im mxaridan, romelic ruseTis mimarT dadebiTi ganwyobiTaa cnobili. profesori inglisurad acnobda stumrebs ananuris
istorias da gadmogvilaparaka,
axla naxon rogor eqcevian maTi
sayvareli rusebi istoriul Zeglebso. profesorma gankarguleba
gasca, visac ra gaqvT, Suqi gamouSviTo da daviwyeT mobilurebisa
da sanTebelebis Cxakuni. axla zemoT mianeT, baldaxinis TaRso. mivanaTeT da mtrisas! sadac ki adamianis xeli miwvdenia, yvela
kuTxe-kunWulSi vandalizmis gamovlineba vixileT. aTasgvari TariRia, 1951, 1959, 1966, 1971,
1974, 2001, 2007 da a.S wlebi,
erTi 2009 welicaa gamokveTilad; aTasgvari saxelebi da qalaqebi, marTlmadidebeli rusuli
Tu muslimanuri, rac yvelafers
SeiZleba davabraloT, magram zura, mamuka da ediko rom qarTulad weria, is ras unda mieweros?
– es is SemTxvevaa, albaT, roca
sircxvilze saubari sircxvilia...
erTi ram mainc ver gavigeT,
ratom aris Carazuli wlebis
`RvTaeba~? gasagebia, rom `RvTaebaSi~ wyali Cadis da SesakeTebelia
gumbaTi, dazianebulia freska
(azianeben), magram Caketili Tu iqneba problemebi mogvardeba? gumbaTi unda SekeTdes, freska(eb)s
restavracia unda Cautardes, xolo, ra suraTic dRes aris, qveyanas unda moedos da imgvari zomebi iqnas miRebuli, msgavsi ram
aRar (veRar) ganmeordes.
rodesac sakuTar saxlSi vinme zura, mamuka, edo da bevri sxva
taZari `RvTaeba~
`RvTaebis~ jvargumbaTovani
nageboba naSenia qviTa da aguriT,
magram SigniT ra iyo, rogorc verasdros, axlac ver vnaxavdiT
laSa CxartiSvils pativiscemiT
rom ar gamocnaureboda ucxoele-
ase iqceva, ierusalimSi SoTa
rusTavelis freskas rom saxe
amouCorknon viRacebma, raRa gasakviria...
(gagrZeleba iqneba)
saerTo gazeTi 17
#38 (305), 5.XI, 2014 w.
muraz nagievi:
2006 wlidan 2007 wlamde,
weliwadi da eqvsi Tve TurqeTSi vcxovrobdi.
im xanebSi studenti gaxldiT, politikur akademiaSi
vswavlobdi filosofia-fsiqologiis fakultetze, Semdeg gadavedi iv. javaxiSvilis
saxelobis universitetSi. sami Tu oTxi Tve vswavlobdi
iq. am periodSi damikavSirda
erTi Cemi Zveli megobari, romelic wlebi iyo gasuli, rac
ar menaxa. SevxvdiT. movyeviT
iqauri ambebi, aqauri. momiyva
Tavisi ojaxisa da samsaxuris
Sesaxeb. am ukanasknelze miTxra: Cems samsaxurSi Sennairi
kacis daxmareba gvesaWiroebao. imave dRes wavediT masTan
samsaxurSi, kekeliZis 8 nomerSi.
_ ra dawesebuleba iyo?
_ Tavidan ar vicodi, ra
samsaxuri iyo. rom mivediT, iq
miTxra: es aris sagareo
dazvervis specialuri
samsaxurio. CvenTvis dRes
yvelaze mniSvnelovania ruseTTan dakavSirebuli yvelanairi
informacia, rodis apireben
cxinvalSi ganlagebas, ra xdeba rostovSio da a.S. da SemomTavaza, SegiZlia Tu ara,
waxvide rostovSi da iqedan
informaciebi gamogvigzavnoo.
me Tanaxma viyavi, magram vuTxari, rom kargad ver vflobdi
rusul enas. im periodSi mamaCemi rostovSi muSaobda. maT
icodnen amis Sesaxeb da rogorc Cans, specialurad SemomTavazes rostovSi gamgzavreba.
erTi kviris Semdeg kvlav SevxvdiT. manamde telefonze damireka da mkiTxa, SemeZlo Tu
ara oCamCireSi wasvla. oCamCireSi maSin afxazeTidan SeiZleboda gadasvla. amitom davpirdi, gavarkvev Tu SevZleb
da Segatyobineb-meTqi. mokle
droSi veraferi gavarkvie, amitom kvlav Sexvedra mTxova:
modi, aq davilaparakoT detalebzeo.
mivedi isev masTan, dazvervis samsaxurSi, da vuTxari:
rom movaxerxo da wavide oCamCireSi, ra mizniT unda wavide,
amixseniT, minda vicode-meTqi.
oCamCiredan kontrabanduli
tvirTi kerZod, naxSiri gadadis TurqeTSi. gvainteresebs,
romel gems gaaqvs, ekipaJis raodenoba, wevrTa vinaoba, erovneba da a.S. visaubreT am sakiTxebze da davgegmeT, rom me
TurqeTSi movewyobodi samuSaod gemze da wavyvebodi Semdeg
am gems oCamCireSi.
sam dReSi movemzade da gavemgzavre qalaq trapizonSi.
iq aravis vicnobdi. visTan mivdiodi, isic ar vicodi, ubralod, adgilze rom Cavidodi,
samuSao unda meSovna. fuli
mqonda, maT momces ori Tvis
samyofi Tanxa sastumrosTvis
da sxva aucileblobebisTvis.
erTi sityviT, portis siaxloves, ukeTes SemTxvevaSi, TviT
portSi, samuSao unda meSovna.
trapizonSi gavicani erTi
azerbaijaneli qali, Cemze asakiT ufrosi, movewone, damiaxlovda da daxmareba aRmiTqva.
im qalma gadamiyvana sastumroSi da samsaxursac giSovio,
dampirda, Tan mkiTxa: sad gin-
lod afxazeTidan, aramed cimbiridanac Semodioda naxSiri,
magram, konkretulad, romel
rusul gems Semohqonda, es ar
vicodi. gaxsnili mqonda eleqtronuli fosta yahoo.com-ze,
romelzec Setyobinebebs, maTi
miTiTebiT,
ar
vagzavnidi.
Setyobinebebs vtovebdi `CernavikebSi~, sadac kodirebuli
sityvebiT vinaxavdi informacias.
pirveli davaleba ase dasrulda.
Camovedi
saqarTveloSi.
momces leptopi, sadac unda
Camewera yvelaferi, rac gadam-
muraz nagievi:
me samudamod mivdivar
saqarTvelodan...
ambavi, romelic minda mogiyveT, aravin icis.
arc ojaxis wevrebma da arc megobrebma
am monaTxrobis avtori muraz nagievi 2005 wels gavicani. miTxres, saqarTveloSi yvelaze axalgazrda molaao.
maSin murazi 21 wlis iyo da ukve ise kargad icoda yurani, asakovani musulmanebic ki usmendnen mis qadagebebs. xSirad gvstumrobda redaqciaSi da SeiZleba iTqvas, davmegobrdiT kidec.
nacionaluri mmarTvelobis ukanonobebs ver egueboda da
ramdenime interviuc mogvca im kanondarRvevebis Sesaxeb,
rac mis irgvliv da kerZod, mis mSobliur mcxeTaSi xdeboda maSin.
mas qarTuli skola aqvs damTavrebuli da saqarTvelo
Tavis erTaderT samSoblod miaCnia.
swored am patriotuli suliskveTebis gamo Cveni saSualebiT daukavSirda mas cnobili msaxiobi da patrioti mada, rom imuSaoo?! portSi mirCevnia-meTqi. meore dResve portSi muSaoba daviwye. movxvdi
brigadaSi, romelic gems tvirTavda nebismieri saqonliT. iqve naxSiriT datvirTuli gemebic Cerdeboda. iq idgnen rusulnomriani, rusuli droSiT
mcuravi gemebic. gadaviRe fotoebi, CaviniSne nomrebi, gemebis raodenoba, moZraobis grafiki da ganrigi, naxSiris
tvirTebi romel gemebs mihqondaT da sad xdeboda misi realizacia. portSi xom vmuSaobdi, Tan naxSiris gadamamuSavebel qarxanaSic daviwye muSaoba. iq gavarkvie, rom ara mxo-
xda TurqeTSi iq Casvlis pirvelive dRidan. erT kviraSi
mTeli istoria Cavwere. absoluturad yvela detali. romel saxlSi kari saidan iReboda da ramdeni kibe iyo asavleli. iq mcxovreblebs ra erqvaT, ra gvarisa iyvnen, ras saqmianobdnen da a.S.
erTi kviris Semdeg sxva
davaleba momces. unda wavsuliyavi kvlav TurqeTSi, romelime ekipaJSi movxvedriliyavi, rom afxazeTSi Cavsuliyavi. diplomis gareSe ekipaJSi ar Camsves.
kvlav saqarTveloSi gamomiZaxes da mesame, rogorc Tvi-
muliSvili zurab qafianiZe, romelic Semdeg, roca murazi
qarTvel, warmoSobiT megrel gogonaze sofo WiTanavaze daqorwinda, Tamadac brZandeboda qarTul-aazerbaijanul sufraze.
muraz nagievi cxonebul zurab qafianiZes axlac mamobilad Tvlis...
ramdenime wlis win murazi CemTan movida da miTxra:
qristianul-mmusulmanuri megobrobis kavSiri davafuZneo.
igi aqtiuri adamiania da misgan es iniciativa arc gamkvirvebia.
dRes ki muraz nagievi qarTvel meuRlesTan da sam SvilTan erTad saqarTvelodan samudamod wasvlas apirebs. Tu
ratom _ saubris Canaweris wakiTxvisas mixvdebiT.
iranda kalandaZe
Ton miTxres, amjerad ufro
seriozuli davaleba SemomTavazes. Tan dasZines, SegiZlia
ifiqro da an Tanxmoba Tqva, an
uario, gemis afeTqeba Tu SegiZliao. gamecina, megona, mexumrebodnen. seriozulad vambobTo, qveynis mTavarsardlis
brZanebaao, saakaSviliso.
_ saakaSviliso?
_ ki, saakaSviliso. Sen iq
yvelaferi ici, sanam sxva vinme gaerkveva, dro gava, CvenTvis ki rac male iqneba, miT
ukeTesio. moifiqre da Segvatyobineo.
gemi unda yofiliyo aucileblad rusuli, romliTac
naxSiri Sedioda afxazeTidan
TurqeTSi. romeli gemi unda
yofiliyo, es ukve dadgenili
iyo, nomeric cnobili iyo.
afxazeTi Cveni teritoriaao
da Cveni teritoriidan ruseTs
naxSiri gaaqvso, _ amaze saubrobdnen.
me vuTxari: yvelafers gavakeTeb, oRond im pirobiT, Tu
am afeTqebas msxverpli ar mohyveba-meTqi.
Cemma magobarma viRac ucnobTan dareka. yurmili rom
dado, miTxra: kargi, ase iyoso.
Sevudeqi saqmes. didxans
18 gv.
Tbilisis mosaxleobas komunaluri
vauCerebis Tanxa dReidan daericxeba
Tbilisis mosaxleobas komunaluri vauCerebis Tanxa dReidan daericxeba zamTris sezonTan dakavSirebiT, Tbilisis mosaxleobas komunaluri vauCerebis Tanxa dReidan daericxeba.
rogorc Tbilisis merma, daviT narmaniam zamTris sezonis mzadebasTan dakavSirebiT merialarian, danarCeni aboSi gamarTul TaTbirze ganacxada, socialurad daucveli ojaxebi 250-l
nentebi ki 100-l
larian vauCers miiReben.
“vauCeri am wlis noember-d
dekemberSi darigdeba im sqemiT, ra sqemac iyo damtkicebuli.
cvlileba ar momxdara, Tumca Cven gavzardeT dafinansebis moculoba, roca seqtemberSi SevcvaleT biujeti, vinaidan, socialurad daucvelTa bazaSi Setanilma cvlilebebma damatebiTi dafinansebis saWiroeba warmoSva”, - ganacxada daviT narmaniam.
18 saerTo gazeTi
17 gv.
vuTvalTvale, magram iseTi momenti ver daviWire, gemi rom
carieli yofiliyo. me vatyobinebdi _ gemi ekipaJis gareSe
ar rCeba-meTqi. maSin miTxres:
amxela saqme keTdeba, rogorc
xedav, umsxverplod ar gamodis, amitom Tvali unda daxuWo da aafeTqo, sxva gza ar
ariso. me winaaRmdegi viyavi da
vuTxari kidec: naxevar milion
evrod ki ara, aT milion evrod ar gavakeTeb am saqmes da
adamianebs ver davRupav-meTqi.
mivxvdi, es saqme rom gamekeTebina, cocxals aRaravin
damtovebda. meore dResve wamovedi saqarTveloSi. arc
eleqtronul fostaze damitovebia araviTari Setyobineba,
telefonic gavTiSe da saqarTveloSi saxlSic aRar mivsulvar. xan sad vaTevdi Rames, xan
_ sad. davxetialobdi TbilisSi dRisiT da RamiT. sad wavsuliyavi, visTvis ra meTqva,
ar vicodi. Cemi Tavisac meSinoda, raime ar wamomcdes-meTqi. erT dRes metro `delisTan~ internetkafeSi Sevedi.
eleqtronuli fosta gavxseni,
mainteresebda, raime Setyobinebas xom ar migzavnidnen. Sevedi Tu ara Cems fostaze,
xuT wuTSi internetkafeSi 5
Tu 7 kaci Semovida, dazvervis
TanamSromlebi. Camsves manqanaSi da wamiyvanes. iq damiwyes
sayvedurebi _ es ratom gaakeTe, es ra gviqeni?! Cemi Zveli
megobari wuxda, samsaxuridan
gamaTavisuflebeno da a. S. me
vuTxari: Sen samsaxuridan gagaTavisufleben, me ras vakeTebdi, ar vicodi, davaleba
prezidentidan modiso, miTxariT da raSi iyo saWiro es ambavi, ar miTxariT, ase ucodinarma sikvdil-sicocxlis mijnaze rogor davdge, miT ufro,
rom iq xalxic ixoceboda,
ager, sqema, yvelanairi informacia gadmogeciT, moiyvaneT
vinme, Cavsvam im samuSaoze, sadac me vmuSaobdi trapizonis
portSi da, midiT, gaakeTeT, me
Tavi damanebeT-meTqi. amasobaSi
Semovida sxva TanamSromeli,
romelsac ar vicnobdi da
Tqva: ufrosi modiso. cota
xanSi beJuaSvili Semovida.
_ gela beJuaSvili?
_ diax. damijda win da
miTxra: CvenTan raindi xalxi
muSaobs, Senzec miTxres, magari biWiao, bevri kargi ram aqvs
gakeTebulio, bevrisTvis kidev
mzadaao. axla ra hqenio? _
qveyana Searcxvineo. me vupasu-
#38 (305), 5.XI, 2014 w.
me samudamod mivdivar
saqarTvelodan...
xe: qveynisTvis axlac gavwirav
Tavs, magram unda vicode, rom
es qveyanas waadgeba-meTqi. miT
ufro, rom Cemi ojaxis wevrebma araferi ician, movkvdebi Tu
gavqrebi, sad meZebon? me TamaSidan gavdivar-meTqi. svans gavagebineb da amas veraferi ver
gavagebineo, Tqva beJuaSvilma
da gavida oTaxidan.
gamomiSves.
mas Semdeg maTTan kontaqti
aRar mqonia da dRemde ar vici, is Cemi Zveli nacnobi sad
aris da ras akeTebs.
rac Seexeba saswavlebelSi
aRdgenis dapirebas, isic ar
Sesrulda da sabolood saswavleblidanac gamomiSves.
samuSaosac versad ver viwyebdi. Tu sadme mividodi, yvelas afrTxilebdnen: saSiSi kacia da ar miiRoT samsaxurSio.
2008 weli iyo da me kvlav
TurqeTSi gavemgzavre. eqvsi
Tve iq vimuSave. eqvsi Tvis
Semdeg Camovedi saqarTveloSi.
gadavwyvite qristianulmusulmanuri megobrobis kavSiri damefuZnebina.
amasobaSi CemTan kontaqtze antiteroristuli centri gamovida. iseT TemebTan geqneba Sexeba, CvenTan kontaqtis gareSe
mainc verafers ver izamo, meubnebodnen. ise Semawuxes, ramdenime Tve, saerTod, yvelanairi aqtivoba Sevwyvite, Tumca
konfliqtologiaze Tema ukve
mqonda damuSavebuli da gavagzavne Cems TanamoazreebTan erTad gaeroSi. rogorc Semdeg
gavige, gaeros warmomadgenlebi
Sss-s dakavSirebian imis gasarkvevad, icnobdnen Tu ara Cvennair xalxs da kvlav antiteroristuli centri damikavSirda _ CvenTan stumrebi arian, romelTac SenTan Sexvedra
undaTo. iq gaeros ori warmomadgeneli damxvda. miTxres:
Tqveni proeqti ganvixileT da
TanamSromlobis survili gvaqvso. Cvens Soris Suamavali
Sss iqneba, manqana dagWirdeba,
vel paraskevs qadagebs, gvsurs
Caxvide, mousmino, ras qadagebs
da ra miznebi aqvso. me vicodi, am qalaqSi bin ladeni
imyofebao, rom ambobdnen. isic
vicodi, rTuli iyo iq SeRweva. Tu Sexvidodi, usafrTxod
10-20 metrsac ver gaivlidi,
nebismier adgilas SeiZleboda
afeTqeba momxdariyo.
_ Caxvedi zaxedanSi?
_ Cavedi, Seix abdul hamidsac Sevxvdi da saqmec gavakeTe.
_ rogor?
_ xelT Cemi organizaciis
mowmoba mqonda. viqirave sastumros nomeri da abdul hamidis qadagebis mosasmenad gavemzade. amasobaSi sastumroSi
Semovida aTamde samxedroformiani. ukiTxavT turisti vin
aris aqao. miuTiTebiaT Cemze
da Semovardnen Cems nomerSi
policia, SeiaraRebuli xalxi,
samxedroebi. wamogvyevi saswrafodo! _ mibrZanes. ar vicodi, sad mivyavdi, vin iyvnen, ra
undodaT. mivyvebodi da vfiqrobdi: daiwyeba axla Cemi wameba, Camomkideben fexebiT da
zaxedanSi
xalxi, sxva resursi, Sss dagexmarebao, magram gvaqvs SemoTavazebac: iransa da pakistans
Soris qalaq zaxedanSi seriozuli dapirispirebebia Siitur
da sunitur dajgufebebs Soris. viciT Seix abdul hamidis Sesaxeb, romelic qalaq
zaxedanSi, meCeT al-meqSi yo-
mawameben-meTqi. Camsves manqanaSi, Semomisxdnen aqeT-iqidan
iaraRSi Camjdari xalxi. vin
xar, bolo-boloo? me amoviRe
mowmoba, vuTxari: qristianuli qveynidan var, qristianulmusulmanuri megobrobis da
kavSiris organizacia maqvs
Seqmnili da Seix abdul hamid-
Tan minda Sexvedra-meTqi. iranis qalaqebSi davdivar, qadagebebs veswrebi, am qalaqSic amitom Semovedi, meti araferi
vici-meTqi, movityue. aqo, turistebs itacebeno, klaven,
awameben, xan cvlian,. xan yidiano, Tan ase Cacmuli, viRacas
amerikeli, an germaneli egonebio. TeTri perangi da Savi
Sarvali mecva. iq ase Cacmuli
aravin dadis, kacebs TeTri kabebi acviaT. mokled, am policielebma meCeTTan mimiyvanes,
rogorc Sevatyve, TviTonac
eSinodaT im meCeTTan miaxloebis, radgan eseni arian xelisuflebis samarTaldamcavebi,
isini _ SeiaraRebuli xalxi.
meCeTis dacvas Cemi Tavi warudgines _ stumariao. stumario? _ gaukvirdaT. atexes facifuci, moiyvanes abdul hamidis piradi dacva. gaukvirdaT.
stumars aravis velodebodiTo, Tqves. mere mkiTxes, saidan
viyavi. gurjistanidan-meTqi.
imaT gaiges qurTistanio da
iZaxes qurTistani da qurTistanio. Turme iq qurTebi yofila umravlesoba mlocvelebs
Soris. aiSala es xalxi da
yvela Cems sanaxavad gamoefina.
mere abdul hamidis dacvis ufrosi momiaxlovda, maRali,
wverebiani, kuSti Sesaxedaobis
kaci iyo: qurTistanidan xaro?
_ mkiTxa. gurjistanidan-meTqi,
ai, 2008 wels rusebs rom
eoma, im qveynidan-meTqi. darekes SeixTan. iman brZana, pirdapir CemTan moiyvaneTo. wamiZRvnen win. gaognebuli viyavi. davaleba mqonda _ Seixis qadagebisTvis momesmina aTasobiT
morwmunesTan erTad da me
uceb TviT Seixs unda Sevxvedrodi pirispir. Semiyvanes
oTaxSi, sadac ramdenime sasuliero pirTan erTad abdul
hamidi imyofeboda. isedac vicodi, eseni salafitebi, anu
agresiuli musulmanuri seqtis wevrebi rom iqnebodnen.
salafitebi Siitebs xocaven
da eraySi gamalebuli brZolebi aqvT, teraqtebs awyoben,
mSvidobian xalxs xocaven.
iranda kalandaZe
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ganyofilebaSi dakavebulebis monaxulebis
Semdeg advokatma levan samuSiam Jurnalistebs ganucxada. igi imedovnebs, rom maT
dRes mainc gadaiyvanen saknebSi.
Jurnalistis SekiTxvaze, dakavebulebs
xom ar hqoniaT saubari fsiqologiur an
fizikur zewolaze, advokatma upasuxa, rom
msgavsi gancxadebiT misi dacvis qveS myofebs jerjerobiT ar miumarTavT. advokatis
TqmiT, xuTive maTgani wardgenil braldebas ar aRiarebs da iTxovs maTi dakavebis
saqmeze grifi moixsnas.
`vinaidan prokuraturam gakeTebuli sa-
jaro gancxadebiT, Savi piariT gaaxmaura saidumlo masalebi, am saqmeze grifis arsebobas azri aRar
aqvs. Tuki ar moxdeba grifis moxsna, Cven ver ganvaxorcielebT srulfasovan dacvas.
saqalaqo sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba maT mimarT aRkveTis RonisZiebad patimrobis SefardebasTan
dakavSirebiT, advokatma levan samuSiam saapelacio wesiT ukve gaasaCivra. igi imedovnebs, rom `odnav
samarTlianobis pirobebSi, misi saCivari dakmayofildeba~.
mTavarma prokuraturam Tavdacvis saministros
maRalCinosnebi 28 oqtombers daakava. uwyebis informaciiT, moqmed Tanamdebobis pirebs bralad saxelmwifo biujetis kuTvnili 4 102 872 laris gaflangva edebaT.
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saerTo gazeTi 19
#38 (305), 5.XI, 2014 w.
rene kalandia
Cveulebrivi adamianebisgan gansxvavebiT, poeti namdvil sicocxles gardacvalebis Semdeg
iwyebs, roca misi leqsebi mis gareSe marto rCebian drosTan da mkiTxvelTan.
rene kalandias, rogorc poetis, axali sicocxle axla iwyeba...
gardacvalebidan ramdenime TveSi gamocemuli misi leqsebis erTtomeuli naTeli dasturia
imisa, rom rene uniWieresi poetia, romlis Semoqmedeba drois gamocdas namdvilad gauZlebs.
ara marto Tavisi poeziiT, Tavisi kacobiTac gamorCeuli iyo Cemi Zma da megobari rene,
uzneobasTan Seurigebeli da ukompromiso, buntari, uSiSari da Tavisufali, maSinac ki fxizeli da smenagamaxvilebuli, roca drodadro Rvinos mieZaleboda.
maradiuli simSvide maradisobaSi gadasul mis suls da maradiuli sicocxle mis leqsebs.
vaxtang xarCilava
riTmiani ikarosi
me waval, waval garduvali sivrceebisken,
rogorc frinveli, SeRamebis ferTa mzirali,
da Seicxadebs ferflgadayril wamebis miwebs
dRe _ macqerali
dabadebaTa... udReurTa lurji yvirili,
zrda da sikvdili _ usasrulo fuga _
refreni;
tyvia. cisferi Sekivleba. mere tkivilic, _
ar ZalmiZs frena
budeebisken... ar iqneba Cemi sxeulis
Crdili Tu forma, arc TvalTa sevda...
damrCeba mxolod daZaxili _ mkerdCamsxvreuli:
_ madloba, gxedavT!..
tvirTis varianti
zaurs
aw da gankiTxvis dRemde unda gakrTobdes bgera
im Soreuli sxivis naTeliT:
raa sikvdili, ros arsebobs TviT bediswera?..
sveticxoveli. sxvisi sanTeli.
CaSavda Rame. farTovdeba mrume wertili
tvinSi... qaRaldis golgoTa _ TeTri _
agiyiravebs dalewil frTebs, da gakveTili
uZlurebaa... ganwiruls RmerTi
SegirCevs lursmnebs, istoriul eklian gvirgvins
(brbo Zels aRmarTavs RrialiT odes),
ityvis: isaa! Jami dadga... Tqvenia rigi...
Zveli riga. saRamoa... ludis bari. siaxle?
gogo, sentimentebi...
gardasuli... dagaviwyda? waikiTxe xelaxla
v. goeTes `verTeri~.
Zveli riga. gacveTili qvafenili. baroko.
gagaxsendi?
dareke...
sikvdili Ramis barSi,
anu dilan Tomasis portreti
me yvelaze loTi kaci var msoflioSi...
dilan Tomasi
is eZiebda, is eZiebda, is eZiebda... sikvdils!!!
ar modioda oxeri, Cuqnida loTis saxels...
is ikortnida sicocxles, Semdeg arwyevda gzispirs,
daRma mavals cxovrebac utylaSunebda saxres...
Tqveni alafi _ dideba, Tanamdeboba axali!..
Tqveni brWyviala ordeni _ surnelovani dafna,
mis loTobaSi rCeboda STamomavlobis samxilad
da mifrinavda sivrceSi cdomili sulis afra...
ha!..
uldis berzinSs
ha. davmarxeT kolega. is fiWvnarSi danebda
ufals... da ha, titebi saflavs Cumad movfineT,
`sami adli miwaa~, rogorc brZeni brZanebda,
kargad viciT, ufali igives gvamyofinebs...
ha, mivdivarT poetis sayvarlis lurj binaSi,
ha, gaSales sufra da qelexia namdvili,
ha, iRvreba arayic da leqsebis winaSe
qreba yovladZlieris celiani aCrdilic...
ha, davTveriT, wavediT... velodebiT elmavals...
ha, patara qalaqis pawawina sadgurSi
kvnesis Cveni megobris violino, elvare
xemi gulSi gaCrila xalxis aurzaurSi...
ha, damTavrda lodinic... da kiviliT SeSlilis _
elmavali... avediT da, ha, Jamis mgzavrebi
ucxo qaliSvilebTan flirtiT, lurji eSmakiT
sxva sadgurze CavdivarT _ g...amuruli aRgznebiT...
mesame zari
ukve dro aris, Seifero giJis xalaTic,
ukve dro aris, dainaxo Tavad ufalic,
ukve dro aris, miugdo tanjva _ alafi _
davla... Jamia ukve Seni xelisufali...
Jami,
Jami,
Jami,
Jami,
aRar aCqardeT, umecarno!.. dae, stkiodes!..
ukanaskneli reveransi
roc
ros
ros
ros
Rame striqonebad agijanydeba,
Rame sizmris maxvils agitrialebs,
Rame SeZaxiliT ayiravdeba,
wreSi frTamoWrilis cremliT wrialeb...
SemkrTali xeli efereba violinos sims,
daRlili xeli _ Sori sivrcis sxivs elodeba...
midixar, roca samoTxeSi usaSvelod wvims
da jojoxeTSic Ze kacisa ar gelodeba...
mSvidobiT, Tqveno brwyinvalebav... me geTxovebiT,
viT venecias eTxoveba gondolieri.
dums es saRamoc: me `maxares~, rom Tqven
TxovdebiT, _
dabrunebula ufliswuli _ mefis ieriT...
* * *
dums es saRamoc. wydeba simi violinosi
(aRaraferic miTqvams, netav rad meridebiT?)...
me SemaSina azrma: gavxarT uflebamosils,
rom isargebloT unayofo sxvisi didebiT...
Cemi nacnobi xec momkvdara _ xe martosuli,
xe _ naRvliani _ sanapiroze
rom idga... iqneb, mogkles? _ axla misi warsuli
rvafexasaviT acecebs rtoebs
gadaRlil tvinSi... uceb mesmis navmisadgomidan
yru daZaxili:
_ gvianRa aris! _ ganSortebis Jami movida.
dade maxvili!
silis saaTi... aq gaZarcvul sizmarTa wyeba
askdeba TvalTa sivrceebs da fiqri _ wameba _
xanjlis taria... araferic ar gvaviwydeba:
gqondeT saxsovrad artistuli gardacvaleba...
samegrelo: zamTari
inteleqtualuri baraTi
Zveli riga. gacveTili qvafenili. baroko,
kramitebi _ sevda wignis gareyda _
gardasuli saukunis... gagaxsendi? dareke!
ginaxulebT me da Cemi kareta.
Zveli riga. wminda petres mamali da gumbaTi.
baxis fuga... mere uceb: ra gqviaT:
gardasuli... gagaxsendi? gadaiRe suraTi;
provincia, Zveli misamarTia...
Zveli riga. Saksis quCa. daugava beberi.
istoria _ lurji kariatida.
gardasuli... dagaviwyda Cemi Txovna; seteri...
lekvi, ZaRli ar minda.
dagesizmrebaT gana? _ misi SiSveli Rame;
jvaredinebi, kvnesa, SebRavleba da wuTi,
roca poeti iyo cisferi, rogorc nami,
da carieli, rogorc bebo pandoras yuTi...
da mainc, mainc, oxrebo, rodesac Jami dgeba,
Tqven etmasnebiT loT lands, da viT Zirdida
hyvaviT...
ufskrulTan dilan Tomasi ise sulgrZeli xdeba,
veras Sebedavs mis leSs Tavad samefo yvavic...
yru RameebSi Zveli leqsebi
ymuian _ Tovlze beberi mglebi...
TviT saflavs arvis daesesxebi,
Tebervlis faSvSi usityvod wvebi...
dumilis lodi... aw mxolod wveTis
wkarunis ritmi drogamoSvebiT
gakrTobs viT Jami... tvins burRavs, erTvis
kiTxva: gawydeba?.. rodis morCeba?!
sevdis Weri da dardis baliSi:
gulaRma gdixar _ mkvdari frinveli...
da usasrulo lodini giSlis,
ixilo sxivis gza _ sakvirveli...
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misTvis iumoris grZnobas sikvdilis wuTebSic ki ar uRalatia
ingliseli
moazrovne,
mwerali, mogvianebiT wamebulad aRiarebuli Tomas mori
(1478–1535) daibada SeZlebuli londoneli iuristis
ojaxSi.
1516 wels gamoica Tomas
moris `utopia~, aseTi saTauriT: `uTvalsaCinoesi da
enamzeobiT gamorCeuli vaJkacis, londonis saxelovani
moqalaqis Tomas moris wigni saxelmwifos saukeTeso
wyobilebisa da axali kunZulis – utopiis Taobaze~. am
TxzulebaSi is aRwerda idealur, magram ararsebul
kunZuls, saxelad utopias,
sadac kerZo sakuTreba ar
arsebobda da yvela mSromeli adamiani Tanabari iyo. aqve Tomas mori gmobda fuliT gatacebas, rogorc sixarbisa da fufunebisken
swrafvis wyaros. 1529 wels
kardinal uolsis Camogdebis Semdeg mori inglisis
lord–kancleri gaxda. amis
gamo mori sulac ar gamoxatavda aRfrTovanebas da
tradiciul gamosvlaSi ase-
Ti sityva warmosTqva: “me
vfiqrob, rom es savarZeli
aRsavsea SromiTa da safrTxiT da ara pativiT. rac
ufro maRalia Tanamdeboba,
miT ufro metia vardnis simZime”.
mefe henrixma ar apatia
Tomas mors, rom morma, rogorc advokatma, mefes pirvel colTan ganqorwinebis
saqmeSi mxari ar dauWira.
papTan mefis uTanxmoebis
sababad iqca mefis ganqorwinebis ambavi. mefes
surda, gahyroda Tavis
pirvel cols, ekaterine
aragonels da dedoflis
lamazi sefe–qali ana
boleini SeerTo colad.
mefes sWirdeboda politikuri mxardaWera Tavisi kanclerisgan, Tumca
es mxardaWera Tomas morisgan ver miiRo. moris
winaaRmdeg dauyovnebliv
daiwyo represiebi. mas
saxelmwifo Ralatsa da
kenterberis monazvnis,
elisabed
bartonis,
mxardaWeraSi
dasdes
brali, romelmac mefes daRupva uwinaswarmetyvela ana
boleinze daqorwinebis SemTxvevaSi. 1534 wlis 17 aprils mori Casves taueris
cixeSi, CamoarTves naboZebi
miwebi da misi ojaxi usaxlkarod datoves. daiwyo misi
xangrZlivi
sasamarTlo
procesi.
1535 wlis 6 ivliss dilaadrianad tauerSi mivida
misi megobari Tomas papi,
romelmac auwya, rom dasjidnen dilis 9 saaTze,
oRond ara imgvarad, rogorc pirvandeli ganaCeniT
gadauwyvites, aramed mas
Tavs mokveTdnen. Tavdapirveli ganaCeniT igi unda CamoekidaT saxrCobelaze, sanam
sanaxevrod ar mokvdeboda,
Semdeg gadaWridnen Toks,
gafatravdnen, mis sxeulis
nawilebs dakidebdnen qalaqis karibWeze, Tavs ki –
londonis xidze. aseTi iyo
imdroindeli inglisi. ganaCenis SecvliT gamowveuli
“Sewyalebis” gamo Tomas
morma ase wamoiZaxa: “RmerTo, Sen daifare Cemi megobrebi aseTi Sewyalebisgan”.
Tomas mors aukrZales sikvdilis win xalxisTvis mimarTva, raTa ar gamJRavnebuliyo misi sikvdiliT dasjis namdvili mizezi.
gamoCenil adamianTa sikvdiliT dasjis Sesaxeb arsebuli masalebis mixedviT,
arsad gvxvdeba imdeni xumroba, ramdenic Tomas moris
SemTxvevaSi. rodesac eSa-
cnobili poliglotebi
legendis mixedviT, buda 150 enaze laparakobda, xolo muhamedma
msoflios yvela ena icoda.
Tanamderove msoflioSi mravali
enaa. kerZod, ramdeni, amaze TviT
lingvistebic ver gagvcemen pasuxs.
dasavleli akademikosebi konkretul cifrs asaxeleben da amboben,
rom msoflioSi 2796 enaa. rusi
mecnierebis mtkicebiT, 3 000-mde.
roca saubaria sxvadasxva dialeqtze, maSin raodenoba gacilebiT metia. dRevandeli lingvistebi gansakuTrebiT arian SeSfoTebuli msoflioSi
enebis
kvdomis
gamo.
Mmospobis zRvarze dgas dRes amerikel indielTa 150, 200-ze meti avstraliel aborigenTa da axali gvineis 1000 ena.
dRemde ar aris dadgenili, ra
xarisxiT unda icodes poliglotma
esa Tu is ena.
TviT poliglotebis biografiebi
ki ise gamoiyureba, rogorc saintereso romani. TiToeuli maTganis
cxovrebas Tvals Tu gadavavlebT,
mivxvdebiT, rom adamianis SesaZleblobebi usazRvroa.
sainteresoa, rom msoflioSi
pirveli poligloti pontoeli mefe miTridate VI evpatori iyo. igi
Tavisi mravalerovani armiiT did
xans da warmatebiT ebrZoda romis
imperias. amboben, rom miTridatem
22 ena icoda da sasamarTloebze moRalateebs TavianT enaze gansjida.
aqedan gamomdinare uwodeben, magaliTad, bibliis paralelur teqstebs `miTridatebs~.
Zvel msoflioSi yvelaze cnobili poligloti, egviptis ukanaskneli qali mmarTveli, dedofali kleopatra iyo. (60-30 w. Cv.w.-aR.-mde).
M`kleopatras xma alersiani iyo da
yurTasmenas axarebda. misi ena JRerda, rogorc mravalxmiani sakravi.
mravalricxovan barbarosebs is TavianT enaze elaparakeboda, Tarjimnis gareSe. BmisTvis enobrivi barieri ar arsebobda eTiopielebTan,
trogloditebTan, ebralebTan, arabebTan, sirielebTan, midielebTan,
sparselebTan.
amboben, rom man Seiswavla sxva
ucxo enebic, maSin, roca mis mmarT-
velobamde myofi egviptis mefeebi
TviT egviptursac ki ver flobdnen~. _ ambobs plutarqe.
berZnulis da laTinuris garda
man 10-ze meti ena icodao.
lev tolstoim Tavisuflad
icoda inglisuri, franguli, germanuli, italiuri, polonuri, Cexuri
da serbuli. SesaniSnavad laparakobda berZnulad, laTinurad, ukrainulad, TaTrulad, Zvel slavurad,
Turqulad, bulgarulad. Seiswavla
Zveli ebrauli da sxva enebic.
aleqsandr griboedovma kargad
icoda inglisuri, franguli, germanuli, laTinuri da berZnuli enebi.
sicocxlis bolo wlebSi aqtiurad
swavlobda Turquls, sparsuls da
arabuls.
rusi meigave krilovi frangul,
italiur, germanul enebs flobda.
mogvianebiT ZvelberZnuli da inglisuric Seiswavla.
romis papi ioane pavle II 10 enaze laparakobda. amas garda esmoda
kidev ramdenime aTeuli ena.
natali portmanma imis garda,
rom icis, inglisuri da ivriTi, Seiwavla franguli, germanuli, iaponuri da arabuli enebi.
fotze adioda, medileges
uTxra: “damexmareT asvlaSi,
Camosvlas ki TviTon Sevecdebi”. Semdeg warmoTqva mcire locva da jalaTi gaamxneva: “cocxlad, megobaro!
nu geSinia Seni movaleobisa,
kiseri mokle maqvs, kargad
daumizne, rom ar Sercxve”.
ukanaskneli sityvebiT kvlav
ixumra, – “cota damacade,
wveri gadaviwio, mas xom
brali ar miuZRvis saxelmwifos RalatSi”.
Tomas moris sikvdilma
evropaSi didi gamoZaxili
gamoiwvia. inglisis mTavrobas Tavis gasamarTleblad
axsna–ganmartebebis dagzavna
mouwia ucxoeTis samefo sasaxleebSi. Tomas morze bevri iTqva da daiwera, romelTagan aRsaniSnavia erazm roterdamelis mosazreba: `Tomas mori~ misi suli iyo
Tovlze uTeTresi da uspetakesi da iyo iseTi genia,
romlis msgavss inglisi veRar warmoSobs, Tumca mas
SemdgomSic bevri eyoleba
diadi adamianebi~.
ainStainma samamde
daTvla ar icoda?
erTxel ainStaiani da kompozitori hans eisleri SemTxveviT
Sexvdnen patara wveulebaze. maspinZlebma icodnen, rom is SesaniSnavad ukravda violinoze da
sTxoves daekra mas eislerTan erTad. Eeisleri Tanaxma iyo, ainStainmac aawyo violino. Magram
ramdenjerac eislerma dakvra daiwyo, ainStaini verafriT Cajda
kompoziciaSi. Hhansi wamodga, daxura roiali da Tqva: me ar mesmis, ratom Tvlis mTeli msoflio gamoCenil da didebul adamianad kacs, romelsac ar SeuZlia
samamde daTvla?!
ainStaini da
Carli Caplini
ainStaini giJdeboda Carli
Caplinis filmebze. erTxel man
miswera Carli Caplins depeSa:
`Tqveni filmi `oqros cieb-cxe-
leba~, Cemi azriT, Tqven msoflioSi cnobili adamiani gaxdebiT.
ainStaini~.
Caplinma upasuxa: `me TqveniT
ufro metad var aRfrTovanebuli.
Tqveni Teoriis araferi esmis naxevarze met msoflios, magram
Tqven manc gaxdiT cnobili adamiani. Carli Caplini.~
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musikosi ainStaini
erTxel albert ainStainma germaniaSi saqvelmoqmedo
koncertSi miiRo monawileoba. germaneli Jurnalisti moixibla misi SesrulebiT da gverdiT mjdoms hkiTxa:
_ vin aris es kaci, ase kargad rom ukravs?
_ rogor ver icaniT? es xom ainStainia?!
_ ah, diax, ra Tqma unda, _ Tqva Jurnalistma.
momdevno dRes gazeTSi gamoqveynda narkvevi didebul musikosze, violinos Seudarebel Semsrulebelze albert ainStainze.
`didebuli musikosi~ aRfrTovanebuli iyo. man amoWra
gazeTSi narkvevi da siamayiT aCvenebda nacnobebs:
_ Tqven mecnieri gegoneT? me saxelganTqmuli mevioline var. ai, vin gaxlavarT me, sinamdvileSi. _ gaxarebuli
ambobda ainStaini.
saintereso ambebi
cnobili adamianebis Sesaxeb
* * *
im saxlSi, sadac jefersonma amerikis
damoukideblobis deklaracia dawera, axla
hamburgerebs hyidian.
beThovenis ucnaurobani
ludvig van beThoveni mudam gauparsavi
dadioda, fiqrobda,
rom parsva mis SemoqmedebiT muxts gaaqrobda. sanam musikis
Sesaqmnelad dajdeboda, Tavze erT vedro
civ wyals isxamda, misi azriT, es tvinis
aqtiur
muSaobas
uwyobda xels.
Sumans musikas mendelsoni
`karnaxobda~?
mogexsnebaT, Sumani
im musikaluri mimdinareobis warmomadgenelia, romelic `momavlis musikis~ saxeliT
aris cnobili. kompozitori mdidar ojaxSi
daibada da mas SeeZlo
xelovnebis nebismieri
dargi kargad Seeswavla, xolo misi meuRle
klara viki Sumanis
cxovrebis SesaniSnavi
megobari iyo. miuxedavad amisa, 24 wlis asakSi depresiam daria
xeli da ukve 46 wlisa lamis Wkuidan SeiSala. eCveneboda
molaparake magidebi, romlebic gansakuTrebul bgerebsac gamoscemdnen. dasawyisSi calkeul akordebs, mere mTel musikalur frazebs. beThoveni da mendelsoni TavianTi saflavebidan karnaxobdnen Sumans nairnair melodiebs. erTxel
Sumani mdinareSi gadaxta, magram gadaarCines. igi mogvianebiT gardaicvala qalaq bonSi.
* * *
didi irlandieli, Tanamedroveobis ubrwyinvalesi goneba jorj bernard Sou
yvelaze cnobili mwerali da moazrovne
iyo Seqspiris Semdeg im dramaturgebsa da
mwerlebs Soris, romlebic inglisur enaze werdnen.
`pigmalionis~ pirvel warmodgenaze Soum uinston CerCils miswera: `ai, ori bileTi Cemi axali piesis premieraze. erTi
Tqven, meore Tqvens megobars, Tuki gyavT
aseTi~.
CerCilma upasuxa: `samwuxarod, ver
viqnebi premieraze, Tumca moxaruli viqnebi, rom daveswro meore warmodgenas, Tuki Sedgeba is odesme~.
* * *
Tavisi cxovrebis meore naxevari
Bernard Soum patara sofel eiot-sentlorensSi gaatara. roca mas megobari SeekiTxa, ratom amoirCia inglisis es mivardnili kuTxe, Soum is axlomdebare sasaflaoze waiyvana. aCvena saflavi, romelsac
ewera: `jein everli. daibada 1815 wels,
gardaicvala 1895 wels. misi sicocxle
xanmokle iyo~. bernardma megobars uTxra:
Tu qalbatonma, romelmac aq 80 weli gaatara da es iyo sicocxlis mokle dro,
maSin es aris klimati, romelic zustad
me mWirdebao, _ Tqva man.
* * *
Carlz dikensi yovelTvis iZinebda
CrdiloeTis mxares. is fiqrobda, rom Tu
CrdiloeTisken dawveboda, es mis mwerlur
SesaZleblobebs gaaZlierebda.
* * *
mao rse-tangi CineTis komunisturi
partiis pirveli warmomadgeneli daibada
1893 wlis 26 dekembers. xelisuflebaSi
mosvlamde is biblioTekaris TanaSemwed
muSaobda pekinis universitetSi.
* * *
pirveli msoflio omis dros momavali
papi ioane XXIII serJanti iyo italiis armiaSi.
* * *
albert ainStains erTxel SesTavazes
israelis prezidentoba. man uari Tqva da
ganacxada: amxela problemebs rom movuaro, magisTvis tvini ar meyofao.
* * *
ekaterine I wesad SemoiRo: aravis ar
SeeZlo daelia sasaxleSi alkoholuri
sasmeli saRamos 9 saaTis Semdeg.
* * *
elisabed I mmarTvelobisas mamakacebs
wveris tarebis gamo ajarimebdnen.
hofmanis sinoptika
Eernst Teodor
amadei hofmani flobda ara mxolod SesaniSnav niWs poeziisa,
aramed mSvenivrad xatavda da qmnida musikas. Tumca misi naxatebi dasrulebuli
saxiT yovelTvis karikaturis saxes iZenda. musikaluri nawarmoebebi ki bgerebis qaoturi krebuli ufro iyo, vidre
kargi musika, atmosferuli movlenebisadmi hofmani imdenad mgrZnobiare iyo, rom sakuTar SegrZnebebze dayrdnobiT, man cxrili Seadgina, romelic zustad emTxveoda barometrs da Termometrs. cxovrebis bolo
wlebSi mas stanjavda devnis mania da halucinaciebi, rac
Semdeg poeziaSi gadahqonda, TiTqos realurad momxdari ambebi yofiliyos.
* * *
nobelis premia, es iyo alfred nobelis anderZi, rom misi saxeli ar daekavSirebinaT ZaladobasTan, man xom dinamiti
gamoigona?!
* * *
iyo kaci, romelmac 14000 dolari gadaixada merlin monros biushalterSi.
* * *
maria kiuri, romelmac nobelis premia
miiRo radiumis gamogonebisTvis, ver gaxda safrangeTis akademiis wevri, mxolod
imitom rom qali iyo.
* * *
yvelaze cnobili sami dasavluri saxeli CineTSi, es aris: ieso qriste, riCard
niqsoni da elvis presli.
* * *
iulius cezari dafnis gvirgvins imitom atarebda, rom Tavisi simelote daefara.
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saqarTvelos mTavrobas,
saqarTvelos kulturis yofil
ministrs baton guram odiSarias
batono guram, oriode wlis winaT, roca Tqven
kulturis ministri brZandebodiT, mxari dauWireT
foTis Teatris proeqts da sajarod ganacxadeT,
zurab ratianis piesa `cotne dadiani~ male daidgmeba foTis Teatris scenazeo, magram, samwuxarod,
dRemde liton sityvad rCeba Tqveni naTqvami.
CemTvis ucnobia, ram SegiSalaT xeli ministris
sityva saqmed geqciaT, magram mogaxsenebT Semdegs:
jer kidev sabWoTa saqarTveloSi `Tavazianad~ ganmimartes: rasac monRolebze wer piesaSi, viciT, yvelgan
rusebs gulisxmobo da saTofedac ar gaikares `cotne
dadiani~ (scenaze ki ara, wignSic mxolod sabWoTa
kavSiris daSlis Semdeg SevZeli misi Setana).
e. w. damoukidebel saqarTveloSi, roca qarTveli
eris yvela drois yvelaze borotma mterma soxumi
moskovs Caabara, moxda `patara saswauli~, _ ori dRis
Semdeg Sedga `cotne dadianis~ radiopremiera (reJisori
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SeracxvaSi ukanaskneli roli ar uTamaSia radiospeqtakls).
mogvianebiT Sevityve, roca qarTveli eris uborotesi mteri samegrelos aoxrebda da im uxsenebelis
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`cotne dadianze~ ramdenime weliwads muSaobda
Tbilisis mozard mayurebelTa Teatris dasi, didi
Sexla-Semoxlis Semdeg mTavarma reJisorma SarSanwin sazogadoebas televiziiT auwya, speqtakli
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Tu `cotne dadianis~ represireba marTla marto sabWoTa _ moqalaqeTa _ nacebis `gadmonaSTia~, axla xom Zalaufleba `ocnebis~ xelSia, vin
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qalbatoni irma sixaruliZe samedicino dargis muSakia, magram
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wamali mcenareulia da aranairi ukuCveneba ar aqvs.
nana TaTaraSvili: me erT-erTi
imaTgani var vinc sakuTar Tavze gamoscada es
wamali. saxsrebis autanel tkivils vgrZnobdi.
saxalxo mkural irma sixaruliZesTan. meaTe
seansis Semdeg tkivili mTlianad gamiqra, aRmidga Sromisunarianoba, gamiumjobesda sisxlis moZraoba.
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rogoria sisxlis samarTlis kanonmdeblobaSi xandazmulobis sakiTxi?
-muxli 71. sisxlis-samarTlebrivi pasuxismgeblobisagan
gaTavisufleba xandazmulobis
vadis gasvlis gamo
1. piri Tavisufldeba sisxlissamarTlebrivi pasuxismgeblobisagan,
Tu gavida:
a) ori weli im danaSaulis Cadenidan, romlisTvisac am kodeqsis
kerZo nawilis muxliT an muxlis nawiliT gaTvaliswinebuli maqsimaluri sasjeli ar aRemateba ori wliT
Tavisuflebis aRkveTas;
b) eqvsi weli sxva, naklebad mZime danaSaulis Cadenidan;
g) aTi weli mZime danaSaulis
Cadenidan;
g1) TxuTmeti weli am kodeqsis
332-e–3421 muxlebiT gaTvaliswinebuli danaSaulebisaTvis, Tu isini ar
miekuTvneba gansakuTrebiT mZime danaSauls;
d) ocdaxuTi weli gansakuTrebiT mZime danaSaulis Cadenidan.
2. xandazmulobis vada gamoiangariSeba danaSaulis Cadenis dRidan piris braldebulis saxiT pasuxisgebaSi micemamde axali danaSaulis Cadenis SemTxvevaSi xandazmulobis vada gamoiangariSeba TiToeuli danaSaulisaTvis.
3. xandazmulobis vadis dineba
SeCerdeba, Tu damnaSave daemala gamoZiebas an sasamarTlos. am SemTxvevaSi xandazmulobis vadis dineba ganaxldeba damnaSavis dakavebis an bralis
aRiarebiT gamocxadebis momentidan.
4. sakiTxs, unda Seefardos Tu
ara xandazmulobis vada uvado Tavisuflebis aRkveTiT msjavrdebuls,
wyvets sasamarTlo. Tu sasamarTlo
SeuZleblad miiCnevs xandazmulobis
gamoyenebas, uvado Tavisuflebis aRkveTa Seicvleba vadiani Tavisuflebis aRkveTiT.
5. xandazmuloba ar gamoiyeneba
saqarTvelos saerTaSoriso xelSekrulebiT gaTvaliswinebul SemTxvevaSi.
6. xandazmulobis vadis dineba
SeCerdeba im vadiT, ra droSic pirs
icavs imuniteti.
7. garda am muxlis me-3 da me-6
nawilebiT gaTvaliswinebuli SemTxvevebisa, xandazmulobis vadis dineba
aseve Cerdeba im drois ganmavlobaSi,
rodesac SeuZlebelia saqarTveloSi
eqstradirebuli piris mimarT Sesabamisi saproceso moqmedebebis ganxor-
cieleba „sisxlis samarTlis sferoSi saerTaSoriso TanamSromlobis
Sesaxeb“ saqarTvelos kanonis me-16
muxlis me-2 nawilis Tanaxmad.
8. „sisxlis samarTlis sferoSi
saerTaSoriso TanamSromlobis Sesaxeb“ saqarTvelos kanonis 42-e muxlis Tanaxmad sisxlis samarTlis
saqmis masalebis an maTi saTanadod
damowmebuli aslebis saqarTveloSi
Semdgomi samarTalwarmoebis mizniT
gadmogzavnisas saqarTveloSi procesis mwarmoebeli organo mxolod im
SemTxvevaSi miiRebs mxedvelobaSi
ucxo saxelmwifos kanonmdeblobiT
gaTvaliswinebul xandazmulobis vadis dinebis SeCerebis safuZvlebs,
Tu isini am muxliT gaTvaliswinebuli xandazmulobis vadis dinebis SeCerebis safuZvlebis analogiuria.
muxli 76. sasjelis moxdisagan
gaTavisufleba
gamamtyunebeli ganaCenis xandazmulobis gamo
1. msjavrdebuli Tavisufldeba
sasjelis moxdisagan, Tu kanonier ZalaSi Sesuli gamamtyunebeli ganaCeni
ar aRsrulebula Semdeg vadebSi:
a) or welSi im danaSaulis Cadenidan, romlisTvisac am kodeqsis
kerZo nawilis muxliT an muxlis nawiliT gaTvaliswinebuli maqsimaluri sasjeli ar aRemateba ori wliT
Tavisuflebis aRkveTas;
b) eqvs welSi sxva, naklebad mZime danaSaulisaTvis msjavrdebis
dros;
g) aT welSi mZime danaSaulisaTvis msjavrdebis dros;
d) TxuTmet welSi gansakuTrebiT mZime danaSaulisaTvis msjavrdebis dros.
2. xandazmulobis vadis dineba
SeCerdeba, Tu msjavrdebulma Tavi
aarida sasjelis moxdas. am SemTxvevaSi xandazmulobis vadis dineba ganaxldeba msjavrdebulis dakavebis an
bralis aRiarebiT gamocxadebis momentidan. xandazmulobis vadaSi CaiTvleba sasjelis moxdisagan Tavis
aridebamde gasuli dro.
3. sakiTxs, unda Seefardos Tu
ara xandazmulobis vada uvado Tavisuflebis aRkveTiT msjavrdebuls,
wyvets sasamarTlo. Tu sasamarTlo
SeuZleblad miiCnevs xandazmulobis
gamoyenebas, uvado Tavisuflebis aRkveTa Seicvleba vadiani Tavisuflebis aRkveTiT.
4. xandazmuloba ar gamoiyeneba
saqarTvelos saerTaSoriso xelSekrulebiT gaTvaliswinebul SemTxvevaSi.
5. xandazmulobis vadis dineba
SeCerdeba im vadiT, ra vadaSic pirs
icavs imuniteti.
6. garda am muxlis me-2, me-4 da
me-5 nawilebiT gaTvaliswinebuli
SemTxvevebisa, xandazmulobis vadis
dineba aseve Cerdeba im drois ganmavlobaSi, rodesac SeuZlebelia saqarTveloSi eqstradirebuli msjavrdebulis mimarT Sesabamisi saproceso
moqmedebebis ganxorcieleba „sisxlis
samarTlis sferoSi saerTaSoriso
TanamSromlobis Sesaxeb“ saqarTvelos kanonis me-16 muxlis me-2 punqtis Tanaxmad.
7. ucxo qveynis uflebamosili
sasamarTlos mier gamotanili ganaCenis „sisxlis samarTlis sferoSi saerTaSoriso TanamSromlobis Sesaxeb“ saqarTvelos kanonis VI Tavis
Tanaxmad saqarTveloSi aRsasruleblad gadmogzavnis SemTxvevaSi saqarTvelos Sesabamisi organo mxolod
im SemTxvevaSi miiRebs mxedvelobaSi
ucxo qveynis kanonmdeblobiT gaTvaliswinebul xandazmulobis vadis
dinebis SeCerebis safuZvlebs, Tu
isini am muxliT gaTvaliswinebuli
xandazmulobis vadis dinebis SeCerebis safuZvlebis analogiuria.
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`fudokani~ _ `myar saZirkvelze
aSenebuli saxli~ saqarTveloSi
SeiZleba bevvrma ar icodess, rom `fudokani~ iaponur enaz
ze
- `myyar saZirkvvelz
ze aSenebul saxlss~ niSnavvs.
`saqarTvveloss fudokan tradiciuli karate-d
do federacia~,
1989 welss Seiqmna zurab merabiSvviliss xelmZRvvanelobiT, romeliss gvverdSic idgnen p. xiz
zaniSvvili da g.merabiSvvili, xolo 1990 welss saerTaSorisso fudokaniss tradiciuli karatess federaciam, xolo Semdeg ki peruSi, q. limaSi, mimdinare tradiciuli karatess mexuTe mssoflio kongressma igi
scno Tavviss sruluflebian da damoukidebel wevvrad.
ess iyyo pirvveli oficialuri damoukidebeli sportuli
organiz
zacia ara marto im periodiss saqarTvveloss aramed ssrk
maStabiT. dRessdReobiT fudokan karate federacia mssoflioss
uZlieress karate federaciaTa xuTeulSi Sediss. “lelo”,
#50, 1990, 15 marti.
am faqtma realuri precedenti Seuqmna saqarTvveloss erovvnul olimpiur moZraobass sportuli suvverenitetissaTvviss
brZoliss saqmeSi.
TbilissSi ramdenime dRiss win kerZo viz
zitiT swored evvropiss fudokan-kkaratess federaciiss prez
zidenti, Cvveni Tanamemamule zurab merabiSvili imyyofeboda. Cvven vissargebleT
zidentiss TbilissSi yofniT da vessaubreT mass:
federaciiss prez
_ batono zurab, yvela qarTvelisTvis didi prestiJia
uxelmZRvanelos evropis federacias. Tqven ras ityviT?
_ albaT, didi prestiJia, magram amas xangrZlivi istoria
aqvs. piradad am saxeobaSi 1979 wels iugoslaviaSi movxvdi
da iqauri ostatis ilia iorgas xelmZRvanelobiT gavagrZele
varjiSi. Zmebi ilia da vladimer iorga samedicino fakultetis doqtorebi arian da sakmaod cnobili mecnierebi, amave
dros karateSic didostatebi arian. gansakuTrebiT gamoirCeva umcrosi Zma ilia. warsulSi igi evropis samgzis Cempioni
da mravali turniris prizioria. aqtiur sports 40 wlis
asakSi daaneba Tavi, amis Semdeg Seqmna Tavisi stili karateSi, romelsac fudokani daarqva.
_ batono zurab, rogori urTierToba gaqvT saqarTvelos
karates federaciasTan?
_ iciT ra, saqarTvelos karates federacia erT-erTi yvelaze warmatebulia msoflioSi. vinc icnobs karates specifikas, dameTanxmeba, rom ioli ar aris iyo mowinave msoflioSi. sportis bevri saxeobaa, sadac federaciis xelmZRvaneloba SedarebiT advilia, radgan saxeoba Camoyalibebulia,
struqtuirebulia da aravis eqmneba is azri, rom miuxedavad
gansxvavebuli skolebisa, Camoayalibon erT saxeobaSi ori federacia. karateSi ki sxvadasxva skolebis, stilebis, midgomebis gamo, praqtikulad, msoflioSi umetes qveynebSi did
problemas warmoadgens _ amitom saqarTvelo saukeTeso magaliTia msoflioSi, Tu rogor SeZlo karates feceraciis prezidentma kaxa basiliam erT federaciaSi gaaerTiana yvela
skolis warmomadgeneli, rac dRes monoliTur federacias
warmoadgens. es msoflios qveynebisTvis sanimuSo magaliTia,
radgan bevr qveyanas aRniSnuli problema ver gadauWriaT.
CvenTan ki gadawyda.
_ batono zurab, rogorc evropis federaciis prezidenti,
rogor SeafasebT Cveni sportsmenebis Sedegebs saerTaSoriso
sarbielze?
_ qarTveli sportsmenebis Sedegebs saerTaSoriso sarbielze dadebiTad Sevafaseb, marTlac maRali Sedegebi aqvT. rogorc ukve giTxariT, me tradiciuli karates warmomadgeneli
var, sportuli karates kolegebi da partniorebi varT, magram jerjerobiT sarbielze ar gadakveTila Cveni gzebi. sabednierod, wels daiwyo seriozuli mcdelobebi, rom karateSi
arsebuli problemebi gadaiWras, anu sportuli, tradiciuli
da kontaqturi karate, sami ZiriTadi mimarTuleba erTi federaciis qolgis qveS gaerTiandes. maSin SevZlebT erT Sejibrebebze viasparezoT.
_ rogorc viciT, Tqven dResac varjiSobT. iqneb gagviziaroT, ra dadebiTi Sedegi moaqvs adamianisTvis am saxeobaSi
varjiSs?
_ samwuxarod, dRes iseTi moqmedi karatisti ar var, rogori survilic maqvs, rom viyo. cxovrebiseuli pirobebisa da
samuSaos gamo didi pauzis gakeTebac momixda. mTavari ra minda giTxraT _ karate aris erT-erTi iSviaTi saxeoba fsiqikuri datvirTvis da, gnebavT, sxva faqtorebis gaTvaliswinebiT, romelic adamians saSualebas aZlevs, cxovrebis bolomde aqtiurad icxovros. amas geubnebiT, rogorc eqimi. kargad
vicnob sportis bevr saxeobas, magram cotaa iseTi, romelic
mogvcems saSualebas, nebismier asakSi, nebismier fizikur
mdgomareobaSi mas mivyveT. adamianisTvis dgeba is asaki da fizikuri mdgomareoba, rodesac SeiZleba mavnebelic gamodges
adamianisTvis, agreTve, travmatulic. vimeoreb, Zalian cotaa
iseTi saxeoba, romelsac cxovrebis bolomde gayvebiT da miiRebT universalur fizikur datvirTvas. sasargeblo iqneba
sazogadoebisTvis, rom masiurad moxdes xalxis am saxeobiT
dakaveba, eris janmrTelobas waadgeba sportSi masobrivi CarTva. amasTan, unda gaviTvaliswinoT karateSi varjiSis dawyebisas, rom instruqtori kvalificirebuli iyos. Tu
mwvrTnels ar aqvs minimaluri codna fiziologiuri, samedicino ganaTleba, rac nebismier mwvrTnels unda hqondes, man
SeiZleba ziani miayenos adamians. Cven yovelTvis yuradReba
unda gavamaxviloT mwvrTnelis codnasa da kvalifikaciaze. es
aucilebeli pirobaa. normalur pirobebSi tradiciuli karate zrdis adamianis organizmis potencials.
_ ramdenad xSirad CamodixarT saqarTveloSi?
_ 90-ian wlebSi momiwia saqarTvelodan wasvla samuSaos
saZebnelad. amitom ZiriTadad axloblebis sanaxavad Camovdivar, ucxoeTSi vmuSaob. ise xSirad ver Camovdivar, rogorc
astrologiuri
prognozi
verZi _ Semosavlis zrda
dakavSirebuli iqneba Tqvens
saSuamavlo da saorganizatoro saqmianobasTan. momgebiani
aRmoCndeba yvela is kavSirebi, romlebsac ucxoeTSi mogzaurobisas
daamyarebT.
kuro _ SesaZloa, ucabed
sasiyvarulo kavSirSi aRmoCndeT, is SesaZloa, gaicnolT samsaxurSi, transportSi
an klubSi. sakuTari grZnobebis
dafarvas ver SeZlebT, ris gamoc
Tqveni sasiyvarulo urTierTobebi
sajaro gaxdeba.
tyupebi _ originaluri
ideebisa da intuiciis wyalobiT: TanamoazreTa winamZRolad iqceviT. ganaxlebis survili SegipyrobT da ar aris gamoricxuli, Tqveni saxeli samsaxurSi bevrs usiamovnod moxvdes yurSi.
kirCxibi _ warmatebis
misaRwevad siTamame gakliaT. musika dagamSvidebT
da swori gadawyvetilebis miRebaSi dagexmarebaT.
lomi _ zemdgomi pirebis
mfarvelobis ganmavlobaSi
ganmwvavdeba Tqveni urTierTobebi TanamSromlebTan. ecadeT
moTmineba gamoiCinoT.
qalwuli _ Tqveni parteniorebisTvis
axali
ideebis wyarod iqceviT. bevrs iSromebT samsaxurSi. pascuxismgeblobis grZnoba dadebiTad aisaxeba Tqvens xelfasze.
saswori _ ecadeT, daiviwyoT wyena da moagvaroT
urTierTobebi kolegebTan.
Tavi SeikaveT sarisko safinanso
operaciebisgan, azartuli TamaSebisgan, fulis sesxebisgan.
morieli _ ekonomikuri
problemebi Semosavlis wyaro Ziebisken gibiZgebT. sasiamovno moulodnelobad iqceva
nacnobis stumroba, romelic daxmarebas aRmogiCenT.
mSvildosani _ seriozuli konfliqti geliT,
romelic RalatiT iqneba
gamowveuli. amdenad, es periodi
umjobesia, gamajansaRebel procedurebs da sakuTari warsulis gaazrebas dauTmoT.
minda. bevri weli Cveni federacia saqarTveloSi ar arsebobda. axla Tavidan SevqmeniT, prezidentad gela dumbaZe, saqarTvelos diasporis ministri airCies. msurs, rom federacia
Zlieri da popularuli gavxadoT. momavalSi, imedia, ufro
xSirad momixdeba Camosvla. gaisad, ianvris bolos gvsurs Cveni skolisa da msoflios wamyvani karatistis ilia iorgas Camoyvana gvinda, raTa Caataros seminari. igi ukve orjer aris
aq namyofi, bolos 2011 wels. minda giTxraT, rom ilia iorga erTaderTi araiaponeli karatistia, romelsac Tavad iaponelebi cnoben mas stilis fuZemdeblad da iaponuri saxelic
daarqves.
_ dabolos, batono zurab, garedan rogor Cans, ra Seicvala saqarTveloSi bolo wlebSi, viTareba gaumjobesda Tu
piriqiT?
_ CemTvis Znelia raime Sefaseba gavakeTo, radgan ase iSviaTad Camovdivar. Tumca aris erTi faqtori, romelic axla
davinaxe, xalxi ufro Tavisuflad grZnobs Tavs. adre SiSi
sufevda, axla Tavisuflad sunTqaven, danarCens uaxloes momavalSi cxovreba gviCvenebs.
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Txis rqa _ drois am
monakveTSi araerTi saintereso Sexvedra geliT. ar
aris gamoricxuli, amave periodSi
samuSao adgilic SeicvaloT, rac
garkveul finansur garTulebebTan
iqneba dakavSirebuli.
merwyuli _ samsaxurSi
gagiCndebaT winsvlisa da
warmatebiT Semosavlis wyaros povnis perspeqtiva.
Tevzebi _ ecadeT, Tavi
zedmetad ar gadaitvirToT.
mTavaria, gjerodeT sakuTari SesaZleblobebis da aseT SemTxvevaSi, nebismieri dabrkolebis
gadalaxvas moaxerxebT.

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